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Forums - Sales Discussion - 360 over-tracked!!!!!!

Dream1 said:
From GFK/Charttrack, NPD and Media Create.
Worldwide 31 june 2009:

* Nintendo Wii: 50.911.000 unità nel mondo.
* Microsoft Xbox 360: 31.069.000
* Sony Playstation 3: 22.644.000
* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

from anotherworldx.it data.


But those numbers seem to be based off of VGC.

You can't reach 31.069 million X360's by adding NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create alone, because those firms don't cover large parts of the world like South America, Korea, Eastern Europe etc.



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JEDE3 said:
You put too much faith in a site thats been proven wrong numerous occasions...

When you estimate, you can never be proven wrong. Silly.

Also, with all those 360s setting in landfills, the 360's attach rate is actually much better than we thought, and totally crush's the PS3s, amiright?

Somehow I doubt you did protest so bitterly when the PS2's ended up with DRE, and I doubt you'll complain when current PS3 fans buy PS3s for their bedroom.

Truth is, you will take whichever side is most in favor of the PS3, because you are biased.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Slimebeast said:
Dream1 said:
From GFK/Charttrack, NPD and Media Create.
Worldwide 31 june 2009:

* Nintendo Wii: 50.911.000 unità nel mondo.
* Microsoft Xbox 360: 31.069.000
* Sony Playstation 3: 22.644.000
* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

from anotherworldx.it data.


But those numbers seem to be based off of VGC.

You can't reach 31.069 million X360's by adding NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create alone, because those firms don't cover large parts of the world like South America, Korea, Eastern Europe etc.

No.

From anotherworldx: "I  dati sono stati elaborati prendendo in considerazione NPD, ChartTrack / GFK, MediaCreates ed altre fonti indipendenti  e fanno riferimento al 01/07/2009:"

NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create... and other independent sources.

 

These data were published before the vgchartz recent update.

(take a look for 19/08/2009)



Dream1 said:
Slimebeast said:
Dream1 said:
From GFK/Charttrack, NPD and Media Create.
Worldwide 31 june 2009:

* Nintendo Wii: 50.911.000 unità nel mondo.
* Microsoft Xbox 360: 31.069.000
* Sony Playstation 3: 22.644.000
* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

from anotherworldx.it data.


But those numbers seem to be based off of VGC.

You can't reach 31.069 million X360's by adding NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create alone, because those firms don't cover large parts of the world like South America, Korea, Eastern Europe etc.

No.

From anotherworldx: "I  dati sono stati elaborati prendendo in considerazione NPD, ChartTrack / GFK, MediaCreates ed altre fonti indipendenti  e fanno riferimento al 01/07/2009:"

NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create... and other independent sources.

 

These data were published before the vgchartz recent update.

(take a look for 19/08/2009)

And what do you think "other independent sources" could be?

The date doesn't matter because it could have been copied from VGC at any point during the last couple of weeks because there's been a lot of adjustments here recently.

Anyone can detect that those numbers mirror VGC.



Slimebeast said:
Dream1 said:
Slimebeast said:
Dream1 said:
From GFK/Charttrack, NPD and Media Create.
Worldwide 31 june 2009:

* Nintendo Wii: 50.911.000 unità nel mondo.
* Microsoft Xbox 360: 31.069.000
* Sony Playstation 3: 22.644.000
* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

from anotherworldx.it data.


But those numbers seem to be based off of VGC.

You can't reach 31.069 million X360's by adding NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create alone, because those firms don't cover large parts of the world like South America, Korea, Eastern Europe etc.

No.

From anotherworldx: "I  dati sono stati elaborati prendendo in considerazione NPD, ChartTrack / GFK, MediaCreates ed altre fonti indipendenti  e fanno riferimento al 01/07/2009:"

NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create... and other independent sources.

 

These data were published before the vgchartz recent update.

(take a look for 19/08/2009)

And what do you think "other independent sources" could be?

The date doesn't matter because it could have been copied from VGC at any point during the last couple of weeks because there's been a lot of adjustments here recently.

Anyone can detect that those numbers mirror VGC.

Take a Look AWX (last update 18/07/2009):

* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

VGCHARTZ three weeks ago:

* Nintendo DS: 106,025,322
* Sony PSP: 48,512,579

Anotherworldx is more accurate of vgchartz, because they take only official data without estimate.

vgchartz does a great job every week, but often wrong and correct later.



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Dream1 said:
Slimebeast said:
Dream1 said:
Slimebeast said:
Dream1 said:
From GFK/Charttrack, NPD and Media Create.
Worldwide 31 june 2009:

* Nintendo Wii: 50.911.000 unità nel mondo.
* Microsoft Xbox 360: 31.069.000
* Sony Playstation 3: 22.644.000
* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

from anotherworldx.it data.


But those numbers seem to be based off of VGC.

You can't reach 31.069 million X360's by adding NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create alone, because those firms don't cover large parts of the world like South America, Korea, Eastern Europe etc.

No.

From anotherworldx: "I  dati sono stati elaborati prendendo in considerazione NPD, ChartTrack / GFK, MediaCreates ed altre fonti indipendenti  e fanno riferimento al 01/07/2009:"

NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create... and other independent sources.

 

These data were published before the vgchartz recent update.

(take a look for 19/08/2009)

And what do you think "other independent sources" could be?

The date doesn't matter because it could have been copied from VGC at any point during the last couple of weeks because there's been a lot of adjustments here recently.

Anyone can detect that those numbers mirror VGC.

Take a Look AWX (last update 18/07/2009):

* Nintendo DS: 105.655.000
* Sony PSP: 47.241.000

VGCHARTZ three weeks ago:

* Nintendo DS: 106,025,322
* Sony PSP: 48,512,579

Anotherworldx is more accurate of vgchartz, because they take only official data without estimate.

vgchartz does a great job every week, but often wrong and correct later.

I already told you - you can't reach 31.069 million X360's by adding NPD, GFK/Charttrack and Media Create alone, because those firms don't cover large parts of the world like South America, Korea, Eastern Europe etc.

If you took "only official data without estimate" you would have the X360 sell only 26.36 million consoles!
(well, maybe 28.5 mill if you add Canada and Australia, but still there's 2.5 mill left that are sold in regions outside official data - Korea, Mexico, South America, South Africa, Israel, Turkey, Middle East, Russia, Polish, Magyar, Lithuania, China, India, Taiwan, Singapore)

Just look:

Per quanto riguarda Xbox 360 le vendite in dettaglio:
USA: 15.480.000
Europa: 9.802.000
Giappone: 1.076.252
Altri(°):  4.711.000

USA+Europe+Japan= 26.36 million, and altri is estimated data (I would guess altri means 'others'). With altri the total number is 31.069 mill.


Ok; I understand.
- USA EU JP = 26.36 million (official data)
- Others is esitimated (Except Canada and Australia)



=)