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Forums - Nintendo - Will Motion+ go the way of the Balance Board, Wii Speak?

trestres said:
Nintendo could, instead of cutting the price to spur sales again, add a WM+ and WSR with every Wii sold, so that from now on all Wii users will have access to M+ and they will know that it exists and how it works. Then for the old owners, there could be more bundles, promotions. Some campaign to made them aware.

I don't see M+ succeeding and getting much support if most people don't own them.

I agree. And in all honesty I believe that M+ will eventually be integrated into the Wii Mote itself rather than an add-on..Like how the rumble pak became implemented. Also maybe WS and Resort will become integrated as well..like MP Trilogy, who knows. One thing I don't think is going to happen is a Wii price cut.

Also, tres, critism and constructive critisism especially is always welcomed, but if all you do is critique it can become..well kind of annoying.



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I hope so, I want M+ to be mandatory in all games that use motion sensing capabilities from now on. At least we will get better games even from shovelware devs. It's not just waggle anymore, M+ does really enhance the Wii, it's just too different and better. Unless it's pointer based or classic analog + buttons, every motion sensing compatible game should use it as a norm.



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I have many constructive threads, like the upcoming 1st party games one, the upcoming Japanese games, the 2008 vs 2009 Wii comparison, or the Zelda release timeline. And I update them regularly.

This one had me troubled since I read the interview.



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I would think that games with anything more than a gesture or two would implement the Motion+. Games like RE4 Wii Edition wouldn't need it, as it wouldn't add anything to just one universal gesture.

That's also why The Conduit didn't bother.



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Yes that's what I mean. For example games like Smash Bros Brawl only had it for performing an attack, so not needed there. But games like NMH, Madworld, Zelda, Star Wars, Mushroom Men, Punch Out, Metroid (?), Star Fox, many sports games, Flying Sims and countless others should implement it.



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*ahem* I can list quite a few titles that support the Classic Controller as well, another add-on for the Wii...

Most of the stuff you named off is used by other games :P

Balance board is used in Wii Music, Wii Fit Plus, and Punch-Out!!!

Wii Speak is the only one under used, because A Nintendo never has focused on online they've always had the mindset of playing with your real life friends and B third parties half ass online on Wii but with games like The Conduit you can have all the match making and easy friend invites if they focus on it, the Conduit even has it to where you can add friends that are already registered as your Wii console friend without the need to input their conduit code ffs, again brought to you by the famed creators of Dora the Explorer.



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WiiSpeak has been left for dead dead, but it doesn't bother me it is a very half-baked peripheral. The zapper was another screw up. The BB on the other hand is well supported, and I think Ninty uses it in their games when it makes sense. I for one am glad they don't tack it onto every game in a gimmicky way. WM+ is to early to say, but I think despite what they say Nintendo knows that with stuff like Natal they need to keep WM+ alive if only for PR purposes. And this is coming from a guy who is pretty sure Natal and Sony motion will fail because they are too late in the lifecycle. Still Nintendo needs to be seen as the place to go for motion, and they can't afford to lose the little hardcore left. So far I think the market has responded about right, well thought out good peripherals find support while lame brained ones (like vitality and WiiSpeak) will suffer a quick death.



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Oh, absolutely tres, I enjoy and visit many of your threads. I don't see any reason to worry though, WM+ is in a different 'realm' compared to Wii fit and WS. I guess we'll see what happens.



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trestres said:
@Dazkarieh: Go take some English lessons, that's all I have to say. What's funny about it? I mean, someone criticises Nintendo for something that's true and then gets attacked back by hoardes of people who know little to nothing about Nintendo. So what's the deal here? Now I understand those who get annoyed by certain Wii users.

Instead of posting something related to the topic you try to derail the thread so that no one talks about this and can attack the OP for making sense.

The point is, if WM+ makes the WiiMote function like Nintendo wanted from the get go, why not make it the norm instead of just another peripheral. They should set the example and support it the most. Make sure majority of Wii owners have one and release multiple games that use it, even bundling all of them with M+ if necessary.

I don't have a single problem with you criticizing Nintendo. Hell... I didn't even noticed you were criticizing them. I thought you were making a question. I just find it funny how come you and many others read the same answer over and over again, and then come back with the same old posts.

So answering your question, yes, I do believe the support Nintendo will give to WM+ will be the same as the others (of course, the other won't have Zelda). And I think they're doing a hell of a job in not supporting it. Why? I'll give the same answer again: because they don't want to. They could (easily, and I'm sure awesome things would came, as usual). But they want to give some space to third parties to shine, and probably bring them to their side.

So, if they give other support than that, I'll be satisfied obviously, but surprised.



     

 

@Daz: I see there was a misunderstanding there, so I'm sorry if I sounded rude. Look, I think that if Nintendo treats M+ as another peripheral they will be missing a great opportunity. Wii drew in players because of the motion sensing capabilities. Now that there's a better technology, if they simply release the peripheral just to get sales, I'm going to be pretty pissed. All those games that felt like waggle fests could be so much more if they tried. But as you said, I'm sure it won't get the treatment it deserves, most likely it will get 1-2 games max/year, and sadly games like Span Smasher, rather than full fledged games that could make better use of it.

If they use it on Zelda I'll be happy, but it won't be enough. It would be like smelling a good meal but never managing to get it inside your mouth.



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