dqm6780 the vast majority of PC's are NOT gaming riggs bought for the main purpose of playing games, virtually all consoles are (therefore "windows" games packaged on a PC have far less merit than games packaged on a console)

Because you being a gamer know this already, I only see you arguing for the sake of a "win" (That much I do see )

did i just get banned for debating sales figures? what rule did I break? i smell rampant fanboism. and my last post didnt get posted.

dtewi - thats MY point, pack in's shouldnt be included. the customer is purchasing something other then the game. (wii & controller) i dont think minesweeper or wii play should be included. even if wii play costs $10 more then a controller they are still mainly purchasing a controller.

so WHY did I get banned??????

lol you editted out your post after you realized you made MY point.

I don't know why you got banned, I'll unban you though. Keep it under control though.

super etecoon - you illustrated the difference with your wording. those accessories are the pack in, not the game. (wii board, mic w/boogie, BT w/Warhawk), instead of the game itself being the pack in.

drpepper = hus?

no fish...drpepper was dgm...he just wanted to know why he got banned...benkenobi didn't know why and he unbanned him.

Man if that is true I shouldn't have bothered