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Strategyking92 on 05 June 2009
Rainbird said:
Strategyking92 said:
Rainbird said:

1. Some of us do in fact like the PSP Go!, and I would much rather have it than the PSP 3000. And by now, I have defended the Go! quite a lot, and I'm pretty damn sure I know what I'm talking about.

2. It may be huge, but this is exactly why Sony are keeping the 3000 on the market. Because not everyone want a DD only handheld, and so the PSP Go! is not for everyone in that sense. Again, I would much rather have the Go! than the 3000.

3. The Go! is not just a downgraded PSP 3000. It's a thousand times more portable than any PSP before it, it's smaller, it's lighter, and you can carry a bunch of games around with you without buying extra storage. A recent PSP 3000 bundle was the Everyday Shooter one. You got a PSP 3000, a voucher to download the game and a 4 GB stick for $199. I think 16 GB will last much longer than many think.

4. I'm pretty sure that 'old' games refer to old PSP games and not PS1 games. And even so, every future UMD release will have a digital release, so Sony will just have to put a bit of effort into putting old PSP games on the PS Store, which I think will very much happen. As I see it right now, this is could be the only weakness of the PSP Go! at launch.

1. Except what I am about to bring to the table...

"Unfortunately, Koller also mentioned the company is "looking at what kind of games will be offered" when allowing users to actually play the discs they purchased."     LOL.

 

2. This is true, but it doesn't mean there is a reason for this... thing, instead of a psp-4000, with a UMD drive..

3.16 gigs will last a lot longer than many think, but so will UMDs, and an 8 gig memory stick (I still have 4.5 gigs left, personally). The former would also last alot longer, also. Hell, there is even a 16 gig card if you want to go EXTREME.

4. the fact that you think sony are going to put 70 more umd legacy games on the psn service by october first is not realistic.

 

1. I'm not sure I get your point here. Is he talking about that good will program with what UMDs might become playable or what? Because if he isn't, then I will simply be left confused here

2. Actually, Sony could very well be testing the waters for the PSP2. If people are willing to get the PSP Go! and by software with it, then it might be a viable option for the PSP2 to be purely DD, which I think is what Sony want to find out.

3. UMDs are also noisy in the drive, use a lot of battery power, the moving parts in the drive means the PSP is at a greater risk of hardware failure and you have to carry your UMDs around with you, if you want to change game on the go. All of this has been solved with the PSP Go!

4. I don't know if it is or not, but why should Sony stop putting old UMD games up on the store once the Go! releases? If I were Sony, I would wait until we were closer to the release of the Go! to start putting all these games up, so that they are more fresh in mind for people, and I would also make sure to have something new from week to week.

1. you are correct in that assumption. That was to ensure you knew that a good chuck of your UMD games will not be transferable, even if the program takes place. I guess I was referring to that other person though, not you.

2. True, but then they wouldn't have made the thing so damn pricey! It's simply not the same situation as this thing being a new handheld. If they wanted a true projection, 150$ price tag would be perfect. This thing will B-O-M-B, B_E_L_I_E_V_E.

3. Okay, now you are just cherry picking here. The noise is there, but it's not ruining for the handheld. All of the other stuff you said doesn't even excuse the lack of the OPTION for the UMD drive. Which one would you rather have? the entire library, or those little qualms?

4. I never said that. lol.



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ZogJhones on 05 June 2009

like ive said before...

as long as sony only steals ideas from other companies, their getting nowhere, they have to be a little creativw like they were with the PS2



Leonidus on 05 June 2009

^for gods sake how many times do I have to say this.
IT IS GETTING SONY SOMEWHERE CAUSE ITS GONA MAKE THEM MONEY/PROFIT.
Anything that makes you ££Ms in profit is not a mistake



Dgc1808 on 05 June 2009

It's not forced on you like a 499 minimum gimped PS3 at launch was.... You have the option of a 169$ system.

If consumers don't like DD, the option to buy a PSP3000 and collect UMD's isn't going anywhere.

It's not like the PS3 launch... you only really had a high end option back then, this time around there's actually a low-end option....

What's GTP and MGS:PW got to do with anything????? All that was said was that GTP would launch the same day as the PSPGo.... it's not like it can only be played on the Go....


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Dgc1808 on 06 June 2009
wenlan said:

Gamers: UMD need to go~
Gamers: I want internal HD~
Gamers: PSP is too big, it's a joke to use it as a MP3 player~
Gamers: PSP's battery doesn't last long~

Sony: There you Go, PSP Go for you

Gamers: Fail!
Gamers: Ugly!
Gamers: Where is my 2nd analog stick?
Gamers: Too expensive!
Gamers: I don't want it!

Sony: Nintendo has the true vision to target the "casual" market, they don't complain, they just pay....


I like this.



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Rainbird on 06 June 2009
Strategyking92 said:
Rainbird said:

1. I'm not sure I get your point here. Is he talking about that good will program with what UMDs might become playable or what? Because if he isn't, then I will simply be left confused here

2. Actually, Sony could very well be testing the waters for the PSP2. If people are willing to get the PSP Go! and by software with it, then it might be a viable option for the PSP2 to be purely DD, which I think is what Sony want to find out.

3. UMDs are also noisy in the drive, use a lot of battery power, the moving parts in the drive means the PSP is at a greater risk of hardware failure and you have to carry your UMDs around with you, if you want to change game on the go. All of this has been solved with the PSP Go!

4. I don't know if it is or not, but why should Sony stop putting old UMD games up on the store once the Go! releases? If I were Sony, I would wait until we were closer to the release of the Go! to start putting all these games up, so that they are more fresh in mind for people, and I would also make sure to have something new from week to week.

1. you are correct in that assumption. That was to ensure you knew that a good chuck of your UMD games will not be transferable, even if the program takes place. I guess I was referring to that other person though, not you.

2. True, but then they wouldn't have made the thing so damn pricey! It's simply not the same situation as this thing being a new handheld. If they wanted a true projection, 150$ price tag would be perfect. This thing will B-O-M-B, B_E_L_I_E_V_E.

3. Okay, now you are just cherry picking here. The noise is there, but it's not ruining for the handheld. All of the other stuff you said doesn't even excuse the lack of the OPTION for the UMD drive. Which one would you rather have? the entire library, or those little qualms?

4. I never said that. lol.

1. Fair enough

2. I think Sony are pretty aware about who is interested in this thing, and I think they will score some cash by having it at this price tag until the holidays are over, and then they will probably do a price cut. And I agree, $150 would have been awesome, but I think Sony are perfectly aware of what they are doing here, since they're still selling the 3000. If they had taken the 3000 off the market, then I would have agreed that the Go! was a stupid move, but the way things have been set up now, I think it's quite good.

3. My point was that the UMD drive is by no means all that good to have, and I would in fact much rather have all my games on the HDD. The lack of the UMD drive could in fact also mean an increased battery life and since all your games will be running off a the internal memory, they'll load faster.

4. I know you didn't, I'm just saying that we don't know what Sony are going to do with regards to putting all these games up on the store. And I don't mind if the full library wont come online, the PSP does have its shovelware and its old iteration sport games, and as long as Sony are just putting up the good stuff, then I am fine.

Also, someone said that the Dualshock 3 was bluetooth, which got me thinking. I think Sony could be planning for easy connection of a DS3 to your PSP Go! for all those people who would like to play with a second analog stick.



Million on 06 June 2009

The PSP Go isn't meant to be a stand alone success , it's part of a 2SKU strategy which will make the PSP succesfull overall.

If the PSP Go doesn't sell excellently well I think that's irrelevant . As long as Sony is making a profit off each one then they've suceeded in attacking a premium and mass market.




Strategyking92 on 06 June 2009
Rainbird said:
Strategyking92 said:
Rainbird said:

1. I'm not sure I get your point here. Is he talking about that good will program with what UMDs might become playable or what? Because if he isn't, then I will simply be left confused here

2. Actually, Sony could very well be testing the waters for the PSP2. If people are willing to get the PSP Go! and by software with it, then it might be a viable option for the PSP2 to be purely DD, which I think is what Sony want to find out.

3. UMDs are also noisy in the drive, use a lot of battery power, the moving parts in the drive means the PSP is at a greater risk of hardware failure and you have to carry your UMDs around with you, if you want to change game on the go. All of this has been solved with the PSP Go!

4. I don't know if it is or not, but why should Sony stop putting old UMD games up on the store once the Go! releases? If I were Sony, I would wait until we were closer to the release of the Go! to start putting all these games up, so that they are more fresh in mind for people, and I would also make sure to have something new from week to week.

1. you are correct in that assumption. That was to ensure you knew that a good chuck of your UMD games will not be transferable, even if the program takes place. I guess I was referring to that other person though, not you.

2. True, but then they wouldn't have made the thing so damn pricey! It's simply not the same situation as this thing being a new handheld. If they wanted a true projection, 150$ price tag would be perfect. This thing will B-O-M-B, B_E_L_I_E_V_E.

3. Okay, now you are just cherry picking here. The noise is there, but it's not ruining for the handheld. All of the other stuff you said doesn't even excuse the lack of the OPTION for the UMD drive. Which one would you rather have? the entire library, or those little qualms?

4. I never said that. lol.

1. Fair enough

2. I think Sony are pretty aware about who is interested in this thing, and I think they will score some cash by having it at this price tag until the holidays are over, and then they will probably do a price cut. And I agree, $150 would have been awesome, but I think Sony are perfectly aware of what they are doing here, since they're still selling the 3000. If they had taken the 3000 off the market, then I would have agreed that the Go! was a stupid move, but the way things have been set up now, I think it's quite good.

3. My point was that the UMD drive is by no means all that good to have, and I would in fact much rather have all my games on the HDD. The lack of the UMD drive could in fact also mean an increased battery life and since all your games will be running off a the internal memory, they'll load faster.

4. I know you didn't, I'm just saying that we don't know what Sony are going to do with regards to putting all these games up on the store. And I don't mind if the full library wont come online, the PSP does have its shovelware and its old iteration sport games, and as long as Sony are just putting up the good stuff, then I am fine.

Also, someone said that the Dualshock 3 was bluetooth, which got me thinking. I think Sony could be planning for easy connection of a DS3 to your PSP Go! for all those people who would like to play with a second analog stick.

I'm glad we have finally reached a conclusion(?), but there is still the big elephant in the room, no matter what the arguement: price.

It's all about price right now.

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.

.

.

Oh what the hell, here's a quickie rebuttal to the ones I still have an irk for:

3. I am In no way saying UMD is a great format... The cases that hold the discs fall apart after a while in use, the games load slower, and it makes some minor noise.. This is all true. But having all of the games that I rightfully bought is priority. Sony said their main targets for this device were new users and psp-1000 users, primarily. In a perfect world, if the psp go! wasn't ugly, and all of your games that you bought worked with it, the thing would be a must buy, even at 250$.....Well, if it was a value pack with free games and stuff.

4. They have already released THE CON...... There goes the shovelware arguement :P Seriously though, Sony hasn't changed their attitude about the psp psn store... Actual psp games are released slowly on it. If I am not mistaken, there are more ps1 games on it than psp games. I am just going on the past here, and I don't see sony making a hugely drastic change in their attitude.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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dharh on 06 June 2009
Strategyking92 said:
Rainbird said:

1. Fair enough

2. I think Sony are pretty aware about who is interested in this thing, and I think they will score some cash by having it at this price tag until the holidays are over, and then they will probably do a price cut. And I agree, $150 would have been awesome, but I think Sony are perfectly aware of what they are doing here, since they're still selling the 3000. If they had taken the 3000 off the market, then I would have agreed that the Go! was a stupid move, but the way things have been set up now, I think it's quite good.

3. My point was that the UMD drive is by no means all that good to have, and I would in fact much rather have all my games on the HDD. The lack of the UMD drive could in fact also mean an increased battery life and since all your games will be running off a the internal memory, they'll load faster.

4. I know you didn't, I'm just saying that we don't know what Sony are going to do with regards to putting all these games up on the store. And I don't mind if the full library wont come online, the PSP does have its shovelware and its old iteration sport games, and as long as Sony are just putting up the good stuff, then I am fine.

Also, someone said that the Dualshock 3 was bluetooth, which got me thinking. I think Sony could be planning for easy connection of a DS3 to your PSP Go! for all those people who would like to play with a second analog stick.

I'm glad we have finally reached a conclusion(?), but there is still the big elephant in the room, no matter what the arguement: price.

It's all about price right now.

.

.

.

.

Oh what the hell, here's a quickie rebuttal to the ones I still have an irk for:

3. I am In no way saying UMD is a great format... The cases that hold the discs fall apart after a while in use, the games load slower, and it makes some minor noise.. This is all true. But having all of the games that I rightfully bought is priority. Sony said their main targets for this device were new users and psp-1000 users, primarily. In a perfect world, if the psp go! wasn't ugly, and all of your games that you bought worked with it, the thing would be a must buy, even at 250$.....Well, if it was a value pack with free games and stuff.

4. They have already released THE CON...... There goes the shovelware arguement :P Seriously though, Sony hasn't changed their attitude about the psp psn store... Actual psp games are released slowly on it. If I am not mistaken, there are more ps1 games on it than psp games. I am just going on the past here, and I don't see sony making a hugely drastic change in their attitude.

3. SONY sees where the profit is and its called the PSP, thats why there has been more activity for the PSP than PS3 for a while now.  I think SONY will, aside from any license issues, attempt to get every UMD game onto the PSN store.

4. I think they already have changed their attitude with the store, and it originated in Japan.  In the US/EU we haven't seen much but that already is changing.  Why wouldn't they release every game on the store, its basicaly free money when compared to UMD sales.

Honest to Chuck, i wonder what system you think would look good, cause I think it looks great.



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Strategyking92 on 06 June 2009
dharh said:
Strategyking92 said:
Rainbird said:

1. Fair enough

2. I think Sony are pretty aware about who is interested in this thing, and I think they will score some cash by having it at this price tag until the holidays are over, and then they will probably do a price cut. And I agree, $150 would have been awesome, but I think Sony are perfectly aware of what they are doing here, since they're still selling the 3000. If they had taken the 3000 off the market, then I would have agreed that the Go! was a stupid move, but the way things have been set up now, I think it's quite good.

3. My point was that the UMD drive is by no means all that good to have, and I would in fact much rather have all my games on the HDD. The lack of the UMD drive could in fact also mean an increased battery life and since all your games will be running off a the internal memory, they'll load faster.

4. I know you didn't, I'm just saying that we don't know what Sony are going to do with regards to putting all these games up on the store. And I don't mind if the full library wont come online, the PSP does have its shovelware and its old iteration sport games, and as long as Sony are just putting up the good stuff, then I am fine.

Also, someone said that the Dualshock 3 was bluetooth, which got me thinking. I think Sony could be planning for easy connection of a DS3 to your PSP Go! for all those people who would like to play with a second analog stick.

I'm glad we have finally reached a conclusion(?), but there is still the big elephant in the room, no matter what the arguement: price.

It's all about price right now.

.

.

.

.

Oh what the hell, here's a quickie rebuttal to the ones I still have an irk for:

3. I am In no way saying UMD is a great format... The cases that hold the discs fall apart after a while in use, the games load slower, and it makes some minor noise.. This is all true. But having all of the games that I rightfully bought is priority. Sony said their main targets for this device were new users and psp-1000 users, primarily. In a perfect world, if the psp go! wasn't ugly, and all of your games that you bought worked with it, the thing would be a must buy, even at 250$.....Well, if it was a value pack with free games and stuff.

4. They have already released THE CON...... There goes the shovelware arguement :P Seriously though, Sony hasn't changed their attitude about the psp psn store... Actual psp games are released slowly on it. If I am not mistaken, there are more ps1 games on it than psp games. I am just going on the past here, and I don't see sony making a hugely drastic change in their attitude.

3. SONY sees where the profit is and its called the PSP, thats why there has been more activity for the PSP than PS3 for a while now.  I think SONY will, aside from any license issues, attempt to get every UMD game onto the PSN store.

4. I think they already have changed their attitude with the store, and it originated in Japan.  In the US/EU we haven't seen much but that already is changing.  Why wouldn't they release every game on the store, its basicaly free money when compared to UMD sales.

Honest to Chuck, i wonder what system you think would look good, cause I think it looks great.

3. I have heard 2 sides to this arguement 1. sony has priced it so high because of the inclusions of blue tooth, and the 16 gigs of storage. 2. sony is trying to make a profit. it could well be either one for what we know. I can only assume by "more activity for the psp than the ps3" you mean since this E3... Then you are correct? They are only trying to keep the system on life support since the absense of titles for the past 2 years has been taking its toll!

4. This is for the bolded. Because they haven't already? The fact that the store originated in japan has nothing to do with the fact that the NA/EU psp store itself has been out since 2007... It is not already changing. Bullcrap premium wallpapers, and ps3 game trailers are the only things consistently released every week (if anything). The only reason there have been a couple demos released these past couple weeks is because of E3 (I am so getting baddman).

And since you asked, the psp I want is right below.......



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