^ when the hell did i ever say it was a good decision? all i said was they planned to stick withh 600 dollars... they already reduced the price of the ps3 by like 500 dollars (900 to 400) and if they didnt have to cut the price theyd be banking on the ps3.

the controls were goofy, i'm waiting for the price of the PS3 to drop, Blah. Blah, Blah. The bottom line is it doesn't matter how much the freaking game sold to the people who have the game, and if your waiting for the game to reach a million sales before you buy the game than your a freaking tool. Make sure you talk your ankles tight when you jump from band wagon to bandwagon. Killzone 2 is the best shooter out there(and i've played them all) and if you don't have this game then your missing out.

Nice sales for a game on the most expensive console being in last place.

I knew all the hype for that game was too good to be true.

this game should have hit a million by now its a awesome game

therepublic - you know how far off the employee count is? first of all GG hired people throughout KZ2 development. GG didn't get a decent sized team till AFTER Sony aquired them which was in Dec 05. Second the full studio wasnt involved till at least Killxone Liberation came out. Third 120 employees dont need to polish a game.., something that was in the process for the last half year.

I would certainly hope that GG is working on a new product  by now so their business expenses would fall under their new product. Given they aren't getting brilliant sales of their last product they'd be pretty stupid if they were doing nothing right now.

What PS2 & PSP games are you talking about? They released Killzone in 2004, Killzone: Liberation in 2005 and Killzone 2 in 2009. Killzone: Liberation was coming to the end of it's development in 2005, so please clarify.

As for this dev kit bullshit, firstly you can start developing a game without a dev kit, as I mentioned in my last post you pre-plan, art design, level design, even start building models on PC for christ sake. Pulling bullshit out of the air that you think other 1st parties would get dev kits first is just ridiculous and that is a reason for them not starting the game by x date is just absurd.

Also what the hell are you talking about with rent "lowers the budget" a cost is a cost that cannot be disputed. Also selling crack on the street corner does not constitute "ran my own business", neither does sucking cock for $5.

Marketing budget ain't included when they state the dev budget though. Because that's not the dev studio's business, it's up to the publisher to decide how much they spend on marketing a game.

So typically, when u read a source stating the cost/budget of a game, they're refering to the studio dev cost excluding marketing.

And I estimate Kz2 to have cost rufly $50 million (marketing not included).

Infamy79 - fixed cost do not go towards game budgets.

Shell Shock, Killxone, Killxone Liberation are the 3 games. if you ad killzone 2 into the mix thats a huge work load for the dev studio. Especially since their biggest expantion was when sony bought them Dec. '05.