GranTurismo: It depends on the game if it is sandbox game you need to change everytime you revisit a place like baldurs gate( Dont mean baldursgate is sandbox).

What I find amusing is that the sony fans don't seem to see the big picture... spining discs, of any type (blue, green, purple, or HD) are NOT the future. That is the past.

The mighty blue ray disk, which can be scratched droped or snapped just like any other CD, holds a whopping 50GB. Wow, that sounds like a lot. But wait a minute...

That ultra tiny new ipod holds how much... 170GB?

How long does anyone really think it is going to be before memory sticks are the way of the future... They are becoming cheaper every day.

I believe that MS (and Nintendo for that mater) have both stuck with DVD because it is just a place holder until the majority of content is delivered via memory cards (kinda like the old cartirdge days again) or via direct download.

this game will pwn... sakaguchi is a genious

I'm not sure who argued in favor of mediums with less space being used forever more and not advancing technology.

I don't see the problem here, many great games have come in multiple discs and nobody complains.

Though I still don't understand why they are still using FMVs instead of real time graphics. Actual in-game graphics are good enough to tell you the story in a good way.

Its a matter of the generation we are in. Like vizunary said, storage space needs to be increased every few years otherwise it wont be enough. Yes we are moving towards download only games we just arent there yet and there is always a comfort area with hard media storage.

Currently we can buy a 1 terabyte HDD for $399. Thats one hell of a deal right? Well in two years there will be a 2TB drive. Storage will increase as file size improves. Of course programs like photoshop and office wont exceed the need for a DVD anytime soon but if you notice games have switched from 6 disc installers to 1 DVD soon we will start needing 2 DVDs and then 3 DVD to install games from a hard disc medium. Blu-ray and to a lessor extent HD-DVD have plenty of space to hold insane amounts of data; An 8 layer Blu-ray disc is 200GB of storage, with that much space theres plenty of room for game data to expand.

In the 5th generation of games, CD quickly showed that it wasnt enough space to hold massive games. In the 6th generation, single layered DVDs took a few years to run out of space but R* needed more space so we got the first game on DVD-DL which was GTA:SA. Now we are in the 7th generation where HD media is starting take a foot hold and its taking more then one DVD-DL to fit the games. Sony with Blu-ray will even run into the problem of storage space in the next few years but its very much possible that the drive in the PS3 can read Triple-Layer Blu-ray discs so that they will have 75GB of space. 

Ok, now that I have a chance to write more. Ok, was that pride comment towards me? If you'd notice in my post, I was not specifically addressing technology advancing. And in fact, what I said inherently indicates I want the storage space, of whatever medium we use, to increase.

Technology is going to advance as time goes on, and more space will be needed for games. You seem to have understood that I argued we should use DVD forever. In time, we would then have to swap out disks quite frequently. I don't find it the slightest inconvienence to get off the couch and swap disks every few days or several sessions I game. Now, if I have to get up and swap disks multiple times every time I sit down to play a game, that would be way too much. As I said earlier. Sooo, inherently, that means with the advancement of technology, and the constant need for more space, I will absolutely want storage space to increase.

So if your saying I was arguing 4 disks is better than 1, you are wrong. I was saying that in the storage space vs. game requirement space ratio, I find no issue with swapping disks once every several times I sit down to play.

When it comes to the management of several disks, thats not an issue for me personally. The disks are ALWAYS in their proper case, or in the system itself. I don't lose or scratch disks. But, I will admit that is an issue for some people. My wife leaves Movie DVDs and Music CDs lying around everywhere. Drives me NUTS! Disks get scratched, lost, and smudged all the time by her. She's learned to be good with my games though ::grin::

I agree on some arguing against the 4-DVD format.

To me, I do not care, but at the same time, I care in the fact that the reasoning for it (excessive BD-esque cutscenes) is just a waste of good disk space.

We live in a day and time that cutscenes are the most worthless add-on to a game out there. Real-time cutscenes in Blue Dragon were fantastic. The same can be said in Eternal Sonata. Heck, I'd argue that the ES cutscenes are BETTER in realtime than the CGI cutscenes in Blue Dragon.

Look at Mass Effect: same ammount of time for gameplay, but 1disk. Why? UE3 allows for special cutscenes that are realtime, and are in-engine. This saves so much room. Why didn't Mistwaker use that instead?

But nevertheless, atleast they aren't trying to gimp the game's length for more CG cutscenes and less gameplay.