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Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
I always found puzzling that the wii has been selling like crazy for 2+ years and just for a couple of months of NOT THAT LOW sales and suddenly "the trend is going downwards"? what about america and europe? does that sales doesn't count anymore?

Really that's pathetic.

 

US and European sales have been falling as well. The Wii marketshare has been falling everywhere.

 

 

No they don't

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=X360&reg3=Europe&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

 

Look at the past 4-5 weeks.

 

They still outseel the other consoles!

 

 

Yes, but not at 50% market share. And they are also lower than the 4-5 respective weeks last year. The point is Wii sales have slowed everywhere, not just in Japan.



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Viper1 said:
Exchange rate loss of 133.9 billion Yen = $1.352 billion USD / €1.009 billion Euros / £898 million Pounds.

Any company that can take a $1.352 billion dollar exchange loss and still post $5.5 billion in operating profit and $2.8 billion in net income should not be given such a negative overview. Period.

Probably the most logical thing I've read in this thread. In addition to what Nj5's been posting. Very confusing read.

 



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
I always found puzzling that the wii has been selling like crazy for 2+ years and just for a couple of months of NOT THAT LOW sales and suddenly "the trend is going downwards"? what about america and europe? does that sales doesn't count anymore?

Really that's pathetic.

 

US and European sales have been falling as well. The Wii marketshare has been falling everywhere.

 

 

No they don't

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=X360&reg3=Europe&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

 

Look at the past 4-5 weeks.

 

They still outseel the other consoles!

 

 

Yes, but not at 50% market share. And they are also lower than the 4-5 respective weeks last year. The point is Wii sales have slowed everywhere, not just in Japan.

So damned if they do and damned if they don't?

*rolls eyes*

 



Viper1 said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
I always found puzzling that the wii has been selling like crazy for 2+ years and just for a couple of months of NOT THAT LOW sales and suddenly "the trend is going downwards"? what about america and europe? does that sales doesn't count anymore?

Really that's pathetic.

 

US and European sales have been falling as well. The Wii marketshare has been falling everywhere.

 

 

No they don't

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=X360&reg3=Europe&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

 

Look at the past 4-5 weeks.

 

You do realise that Super Smash Bros Brawl and Mario Kart Wii launched in that 4-5 week time frame last year, don't you?

When you factor that out, you also need to understand that Spring is the slowest sales period of the year.

Follow that up with many huge games for the rest of the year in contrast with very few last year and I cannot fathom how anyone can predict fewer sales this year than last year or that this 4-5 week trend is somehow permanent.

 

 

You also have to factor in last years supply constraints which are no longer an issue. It's questionable whether Nintendo will be able to deliver even higher sales during the 2010 year than they have in 2008 and 2009 without a price cut (even if they do end up selling better in 09 than 08). Either this year or next year sales will end up falling and necessatating a price cut and at that point the logevity of Nintendo's success will come into question. In the coming year or two the controversial assertion that the Wii is a fad will be answered by either growing sales or a price cut.



mikescoff said:
Viper1 said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
I always found puzzling that the wii has been selling like crazy for 2+ years and just for a couple of months of NOT THAT LOW sales and suddenly "the trend is going downwards"? what about america and europe? does that sales doesn't count anymore?

Really that's pathetic.

 

US and European sales have been falling as well. The Wii marketshare has been falling everywhere.

 

 

No they don't

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=X360&reg3=Europe&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

 

Look at the past 4-5 weeks.

 

You do realise that Super Smash Bros Brawl and Mario Kart Wii launched in that 4-5 week time frame last year, don't you?

When you factor that out, you also need to understand that Spring is the slowest sales period of the year.

Follow that up with many huge games for the rest of the year in contrast with very few last year and I cannot fathom how anyone can predict fewer sales this year than last year or that this 4-5 week trend is somehow permanent.

 

 

You also have to factor in last years supply constraints which are no longer an issue. It's questionable whether Nintendo will be able to deliver even higher sales during the 2010 year than they have in 2008 and 2009 without a price cut (even if they do end up selling better in 09 than 08). Either this year or next year sales will end up falling and necessatating a price cut and at that point the logevity of Nintendo's success will come into question. In the coming year or two the controversial assertion that the Wii is a fad will be answered by either growing sales or a price cut.

I think I just blew a few logical fuses in my brain.  Pardon me while I go replace them.

 

 

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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mikescoff said:
Viper1 said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
I always found puzzling that the wii has been selling like crazy for 2+ years and just for a couple of months of NOT THAT LOW sales and suddenly "the trend is going downwards"? what about america and europe? does that sales doesn't count anymore?

Really that's pathetic.

 

US and European sales have been falling as well. The Wii marketshare has been falling everywhere.

 

 

No they don't

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=X360&reg3=Europe&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

 

Look at the past 4-5 weeks.

 

You do realise that Super Smash Bros Brawl and Mario Kart Wii launched in that 4-5 week time frame last year, don't you?

When you factor that out, you also need to understand that Spring is the slowest sales period of the year.

Follow that up with many huge games for the rest of the year in contrast with very few last year and I cannot fathom how anyone can predict fewer sales this year than last year or that this 4-5 week trend is somehow permanent.

 

 

You also have to factor in last years supply constraints which are no longer an issue. It's questionable whether Nintendo will be able to deliver even higher sales during the 2010 year than they have in 2008 and 2009 without a price cut (even if they do end up selling better in 09 than 08). Either this year or next year sales will end up falling and necessatating a price cut and at that point the logevity of Nintendo's success will come into question. In the coming year or two the controversial assertion that the Wii is a fad will be answered by either growing sales or a price cut.

WTFH?!

 



Looking forward to Sony and M$'s reports.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Viper1 said:
mikescoff said:
Viper1 said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
mikescoff said:
Bobbuffalo said:
I always found puzzling that the wii has been selling like crazy for 2+ years and just for a couple of months of NOT THAT LOW sales and suddenly "the trend is going downwards"? what about america and europe? does that sales doesn't count anymore?

Really that's pathetic.

 

US and European sales have been falling as well. The Wii marketshare has been falling everywhere.

 

 

No they don't

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=X360&reg3=Europe&start=39572&end=39936&weekly=1

 

Look at the past 4-5 weeks.

 

You do realise that Super Smash Bros Brawl and Mario Kart Wii launched in that 4-5 week time frame last year, don't you?

When you factor that out, you also need to understand that Spring is the slowest sales period of the year.

Follow that up with many huge games for the rest of the year in contrast with very few last year and I cannot fathom how anyone can predict fewer sales this year than last year or that this 4-5 week trend is somehow permanent.

 

 

You also have to factor in last years supply constraints which are no longer an issue. It's questionable whether Nintendo will be able to deliver even higher sales during the 2010 year than they have in 2008 and 2009 without a price cut (even if they do end up selling better in 09 than 08). Either this year or next year sales will end up falling and necessatating a price cut and at that point the logevity of Nintendo's success will come into question. In the coming year or two the controversial assertion that the Wii is a fad will be answered by either growing sales or a price cut.

I think I just blew a few logical fuses in my brain.  Pardon me while I go replace them.

 

 

 

 

Most people DO expect a price cut either this year or next year. If that does happen than it calls into question the Wii's longevity as a long term brand rather than a product with temporary appeal riding off the heals of media attention.



kowenicki said

Economy? Saturation?  what?

 

 It's all due to the fierce price war with the 360, of course.



Dude, the console is outselling competitors combined. Why would they cut the price? They just raised the price in EU. Keep dreaming, I hope you enjoy your stay in fantasy land.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.