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gebx said:
Carl2291 said:
I want to know when 1.4million wasnt more than 1million.

 

Do you really think Sony would leave out 400,000 consoles from their announcement? I mean seriously?

Do you really believe that?

saying "more than 1 million" sounds better than saying "less than 1.5 million" imo.

Plus the fact that 500k+ has been sold in America and 200k+ sold in the UK alone...

And as City17 said earlier, there are over 900000 accounts online in Warzone... it makes perfect sence that the numbers are really around 1.4million.



                            

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badgenome said:
outlawauron said:
disolitude said:
Munkeh111 said:
disolitude said:
City17 said:
938933 Warzone players say hi! :)

There are multiple accounts per PS3/copy of game...not to mention rentals. That proves nothing.

Why don't videogames keep open doors on sales like box office movies? It would be nice to know the exact sales for each game,...even if it bombs or is a hit.

Well Gears of War 2 has been played by 2.7m people online, which is just under half its sales, I find it hard to believe that 90% of Killzone 2 owners have played the game online, there are only 17m (maybe 19m) PS3 accounts to over 22m sales, so that percentage does seem off

I think it depends form game to game. I mean gears 2 online is not really the major draw. Halo 3 would be a better example...However I wasn't able to find a total number of halo 3 players online.

This is the best I could do... http://www.gamespot.com/news/blogs/sidebar/909182374/26848073/154-million-halo-3-players-kill-10-billion-covenant.html

What?! What do people play it for then? The 5 hour campaign with a terrible story?

I sure as hell did!

I played through the campaign once on co-op. Then I just use it for Horde.



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Squall_Leonhart said:
blackstar said:
SCEA stands for what?

Sony Computer Entertainment America

I honestly don't know what gebx has against the PS3 and Sony... Everytime he comes out of the 'woodwork' it is to post negative news about the PS3 and/or Sony... It is pretty sad really!

 

Well, to be honest I could name atleast half a dozen (probably closer to a  dozen) Sony Fanboys who do the exact same thing to the 360.  I guess he is just trying to keep things evened out a bit.  

 



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I would assume the ratio of Others/NA sales for KZ2 should be similar to other recent harcore games.

Lets compare the 1st 7 week sales America vs Others for recent PS3 hardcore games:

Resistance 2:
- America: 585k (53%)
- Others: 508k(47%)

CoD: WaW
- America: 1,290k (54%)
- Others: 1,100k (46%)

Resident Evil 5
- America: 628kk (47%)
- Others: 712kk (53%)

Gebx estimated for Killzone2
- America: 710k (65%)
- Others: 390k (35%)

There are 1.8M more PS3 consoles in Others than Americas, and they have a recent history of buying a similar number of copies of high profile hardcore games.  They also have a KZ2 hardware bundle as well.  Why would KZ2 numbers be half of American numbers?

 



Carl2291 said:
gebx said:
Carl2291 said:
I want to know when 1.4million wasnt more than 1million.

 

Do you really think Sony would leave out 400,000 consoles from their announcement? I mean seriously?

Do you really believe that?

saying "more than 1 million" sounds better than saying "less than 1.5 million" imo.

Plus the fact that 500k+ has been sold in America and 200k+ sold in the UK alone...

And as City17 said earlier, there are over 900000 accounts online in Warzone... it makes perfect sence that the numbers are really around 1.4million.

 

 

@Carl2291

Expect to see a "Oh yeah? Well that's because people make more accounts on PSN" response



 

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gebx said:
Squall_Leonhart said:
blackstar said:
SCEA stands for what?

Sony Computer Entertainment America

I honestly don't know what gebx has against the PS3 and Sony... Everytime he comes out of the 'woodwork' it is to post negative news about the PS3 and/or Sony... It is pretty sad really!

 

 

But am I wrong?

And Squall.. when was the last time you created a thread about positive 360 news? Same with all those complaining about my posts.. when have any of you created a thread about positive news on the 360.

Stop being hypocrites, go spam somewhere else.

only one did , stop whining

 



1.4 million is > 1 million last I recalled... I mean, it's been a while since high-school, but I do recall that.



For Sony shipped = sold so it remains to be seen if that was 1 million shipped WW or Sony have been tracking the sales of every store WW to see if the game has sold 1 million. PR just read out the milestone, I doubt they know that one sentence will be interpret in a thousand different ways on gaming forums.



 

gebx said:
Squall_Leonhart said:
blackstar said:
SCEA stands for what?

Sony Computer Entertainment America

I honestly don't know what gebx has against the PS3 and Sony... Everytime he comes out of the 'woodwork' it is to post negative news about the PS3 and/or Sony... It is pretty sad really!

 

 

But am I wrong?

And Squall.. when was the last time you created a thread about positive 360 news? Same with all those complaining about my posts.. when have any of you created a thread about positive news on the 360.

Stop being hypocrites, go spam somewhere else.

 

I don't post news about any console, and react negatively to the things I dislike about Sony in the same way I react positively to the things I like about the 360. So you can stop calling me a hypocrite, thank you very much. Again: it's not whether you are right or wrong, just that you show your bias. Nothing wrong with posting news about a certain console, unless you merely do it to damage its perception. Because that's basically why you post it.



WiiStation360 said:

I would assume the ratio of Others/NA sales for KZ2 should be similar to other recent harcore games.

Lets compare the 1st 7 week sales America vs Others for recent PS3 hardcore games:

Resistance 2:
- America: 585k (53%)
- Others: 508k(47%)

CoD: WaW
- America: 1,290k (54%)
- Others: 1,100k (46%)

Resident Evil 5
- America: 628kk (47%)
- Others: 712kk (53%)

Gebx estimated for Killzone2
- America: 710k (65%)
- Others: 390k (35%)

There are 1.8M more PS3 consoles in Others than Americas, and they have a recent history of buying a similar number of copies of high profile hardcore games.  They also have a KZ2 hardware bundle as well.  Why would KZ2 numbers be half of American numbers?

 

 

!!!

Is that the answer? I know VGC takes into account bundles, but what about GFK and the other "Others" tracking services?

 



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