Have fun in fantasy land.

You're all over the map mate, your ideal world would be complete chaos....

Nobody defines helping the less fortunate as theft, so you don't have to feel sorry for anyone.  Voluntary charity, for instance, is clearly not theft.

Some people do, however, define theft as taking someone's money or property away from them, against their will.  Perhaps if you think about it carefully, you can see why some might consider taxation a form of theft.  (Which is not to say that I personally believe that all taxation is theft--I don't--but I don't think such a point of view is particularly misguided or unwarranted.)

Incidentally, maybe I misremember Robin Hood... but I think that Robin's crimes were thefts against the government's men, taking back the money taxed from the citizens.  Isn't that right?

I tend to believe that people become vulgar like this when they run out of intelligent things to say.

Maybe that's not true of you--maybe you have great, well thought out reasons for all of your beliefs.  But saying things like "people like you make me sick" isn't going to convince anyone of anything, except that maybe you're the kind of person who can't handle a grown-up discussion.

I would take your argument one step further and say that there are *three* ways in which the rich contribute in a free society, economically speaking.  They tend to do it via taxes (however low they may be), voluntary contributions (charity), and re-investment in the infrastructure (starting companies, investing large sums via stocks, venture capital for new startups, etc.).  But the "disenfranchised" don't seem to see it that way.  All they see is someone with a lot of money who doesn't pay as much into their own pocket as they would like.  Take away the surplus money of the rich, and the economy will suffer greatly over time.  This was explained by many of the founding fathers, but we seem to have forgotten what they taught us.

Quoted for truth, especially the last sentence.

This is what I am on about... How come people see liberal beliefs as everything wrong in the world, I'm not evil, liberals are not evil.

The problem is not all of your beliefs fall into the realm of Liberal.  Maybe they fall in line with the liberal beliefs of you country, but Liberal platforms vary from country to country.

So without your "rights" you would be a disfigured, stupid person?

I won't think so. History proves you wrong in so many ways.

Humans have been around for about 100,000 years (?)

Well, I won't how they survived without their own healthcare and education.  All they needed to do was to know how to survive.

Do you have education in the UK, because I am detecting some ignorance.

history? you mean when we died before 40 and live in poverty or work in workhouses or have slaves or we had dictators in the form of monarchs? history says we need to progress to live longer and happier lives, looking to history for a solution wont work here, we must look to the future, thats why they call the tax system i want PROGRESSIVE.

of course i have had an education, mine included PROPER history lessons, clearly yours did not, if you are dumb enough to think things were better when we had no rights and died before 40.

ignorance? hmm, i dont think so, i know that things were MUCH worse in the past, you choose to ignore that though.

P.S - i wasnt gonna post here again, but i had to respond to that highly offensive and stupid post.