Taxation to run government, no. Taxation for entitlements, yes.

That's why the Robin Hood line is not “Tax the rich and give to the poor”, it's “Steal from the rich and give to the poor”.

It's stealing, just government approved theft.

its not stealing, its taking a fair amount of money from the rich to help the poor, i dont define helping the less fortunate as theft, i feel sorry for anyone who does

Sadly, self-reliance and individual initiative, two of the cornerstones of what made the United States of American great (and why people have come to this nation in droves over the past two centuries), have been sacrificed on the altar of comfort.  We now want the government to provide our healthcare, re-distribute our wealth from those who work hard to those who feel cheated, to provide our education, protect us from our own stupidity, etc.  We no longer want to have to take care of ourselves, are obsessed with "having/shopping/playing", yet we yell, red-faced, into the news cameras demanding that companies stop hiring undocumented workers or sending jobs overseas where workers are willing to toil from dawn to dusk to simply have enough to eat.

We've become a nation of experts on how to entertain ourselves, but little else it would seem.  It saddens me to no end. :-/

I am glad that spending other peoples money makes you feel better about yourself.

Personally, I enjoy the fact that I dedicated myself to something, and earn enough money to give my own income, as apposed to having to rely on other peoples money to make me feel like a better person.

Helping the poor should be something done out of a generous heart, not forced upon a people by their government.  It's amazing how such an expression as "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" is so little understood by so many.

Helping a widow or an orphaned child is a great thing, but creating multi-generational families that have learned nothing but living off the government teat is a crime in itself.

you really dont understand what im saying, not everyone is a workaholic who wants a job that pays 100k a year, many, many people want a job that pays a decent living wage and that they enjoy, working hard does not allways reap rewards, some people just arent as good as others at doing certain things, youre assuming all humans are the same, which is utter bullshit, we are all individuals, why should i be forced to pay for my healthcare and education just becuase i didnt get a job that pays me as much as yours, maybe i want a job thats right for me?

The question is why should I be forced to pay your healthcare because you want a job that's “right for you”?

Why do you have the right to make a choice that takes money from me? Where are my rights?

In my world we all get the same rights, even if some are rich and you don't feel they deserve there rights anymore. The US was founded to protect people like me, from people like you.

Rights are things that are inalienable, meaning you can't take them away. Forcing me to work to pay for you is indenturing me to you, and against my rights, no matter how much money I have.

What do the poor do to deserve hand outs? I'm all for it if they are deserving.
But lazy bums that just sit on their ass don't deserve anything.

by your logic we have no rights as everything can be taken away, by death

so you have NO right to earn any money, you have NO right to live, you have NO right to speak to anyone else, you have NO rights

you really want to say that Rights must be inalienable?



now, in my opinion, Rights are the basic things all humans need to enjoy a good standard of life, to get a the job they want and to live in good health, imo we should strive towards making sure everyone has these rights, no matter what there race, nationality or gender.

I agree with the bolded.