DSi NO MPS3 playback WTF!!!

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Jo21 on 08 April 2009

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because people start saying people use itunes anyway and they are doing good.
http://digg.com/apple/iTunes_top_tracks_1_29_Amazon_0_99_thanks_record_labels, well it's still anticompetitive because they are the biggest one and the main one.
but recently amazon started to grow and offered undrmed music , but Mp3s.
so no even if itunes is AAC many other services like amazon support mp3.
@nintendofan, thats a transcoding rule, any kind of transcoding degrate the quality of the sound, even up.
so if you transcode a 64kbps to 320kbps you won't get better quality, actually it should get a bit worse.

So ... it's anticompetitive because ... it's bigger than the competition? Is Intel anticompetitive because it's bigger than AMD?

yes, if you didn't know they are, they are even trying to kill X86 AMD business.

while big and the main one supporting others players it's not nice, it's like microsoft banned firefox from being installed on windows pc and you could only use IE.

when others stores let you use any player you want even cellphones.

But see now you're saying that Intel has anticompetitive business tactics. Suppose that Intel was nice as could be, "I'll do my thing and you do yours AMD, and may God defend the right"; would Intel still be anticompetitive just because of the fact that Intel is bigger than AMD? Because that's what you said about Apple iTunes.

no thats not the reason, a not because it bigger you are missing part of the convesation i said they are anticompetive because they don't let other players play their music from their store, only ipods could play before.

while for a while being biggest music online store, but now with amazon pressure they are selling undrmed stuff like amazon. mp3 256kbps undrmed service.

similar intel is trying to do with AMD, locking up licensings of X86 archicture.

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@Jo21: It's their platform and they can do whatever they like with it as long as they don't have a monopoly on the market (monopoly may lead into antitrust actions). A proprietary service on a market with competition isn't a monopoly.

So, there's one service where only one companys music player can play music. But what does that have to do with DSi?

Actually they are in more danger of an anti trust case regarding iphone apps, which can only be sold through itunes and Apple takes a 30% cut. Though if I recall correctly, apple has already been taken to court on an antitrust case regarding itunes, can't recall the outcome. If anyone remembers let me know.

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But see now you're saying that Intel has anticompetitive business tactics. Suppose that Intel was nice as could be, "I'll do my thing and you do yours AMD, and may God defend the right"; would Intel still be anticompetitive just because of the fact that Intel is bigger than AMD? Because that's what you said about Apple iTunes.

no thats not the reason, a not because it bigger you are missing part of the convesation i said they are anticompetive because they don't let other players play their music from their store, only ipods could play before.

while for a while being biggest music online store, but now with amazon pressure they are selling undrmed stuff like amazon. mp3 256kbps undrmed service.

similar intel is trying to do with AMD, locking up licensings of X86 archicture.

But isn't that "USED to be anticompetitive" -- not "IS anticompetitive"? There's a difference.

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@Spoon: I don't know if they are or not, but Apple allowed different web browsers to be distributed via AppStore for not to get into antitrust procedure.

What the problem here was, is that the contract the software developers have to sign, says that the software can't "emulate" the iPhone functions, which effectively limits web browers and media players publishing on the platform. I'm quite sure Opera, for example, would be quick to take issue further.

@Jo21: In a sense, iTunes limiting their content to Apple products isn't that much different from music stores that use WMA as their format of choice.

In any case, the talk was about DSi and DRM. Whether it can play songs from iTunes or not, is rather irrelevant with can it play AAC with DRM.

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@Spoon: I don't know if they are or not, but Apple allowed different web browsers to be distributed via AppStore for not to get into antitrust procedure.

What the problem here was, is that the contract the software developers have to sign, says that the software can't "emulate" the iPhone functions, which effectively limits web browers and media players publishing on the platform. I'm quite sure Opera, for example, would be quick to take issue further.

@Jo21: In a sense, iTunes limiting their content to Apple products isn't that much different from music stores that use WMA as their format of choice.

In any case, the talk was about DSi and DRM. Whether it can play songs from iTunes or not, is rather irrelevant with can it play AAC with DRM.

but WMA DRM is support by more brands and not limited to Ipod while AAC itunes DRM wasn't.

the point was risen due many people saying everybody itunes as the main store, and thats not really true before, before it could not play itunes DRMed AAC only UnDRMed.

neither amazon undrmed Mp3s.

limiting the options of purchases.

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Final-Fan said:

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But see now you're saying that Intel has anticompetitive business tactics. Suppose that Intel was nice as could be, "I'll do my thing and you do yours AMD, and may God defend the right"; would Intel still be anticompetitive just because of the fact that Intel is bigger than AMD? Because that's what you said about Apple iTunes.

no thats not the reason, a not because it bigger you are missing part of the convesation i said they are anticompetive because they don't let other players play their music from their store, only ipods could play before.

while for a while being biggest music online store, but now with amazon pressure they are selling undrmed stuff like amazon. mp3 256kbps undrmed service.

similar intel is trying to do with AMD, locking up licensings of X86 archicture.

But isn't that "USED to be anticompetitive" -- not "IS anticompetitive"? There's a difference.

No, it still *IS* anti-competetive. iTunes still has DRM on all of it's video files. Amazon does too (WMDRM) but the windows media DRM system works on most media players (not iPod, but MS would gladly license WMDRM to Apple - they're not trying to stop anyone from supporting WMDRM).