FishyJoe said:
jhlennon1 said:
You think the 360 will break 35million consoles? I assure you that it won't. PS3 is an investment and investments are not profitable short term. Sony clearly explained this and it is the reason that Sony generates such high revenue because they are constantly expanding. Nintendo are being profitable but they are not expanding their company like Sony is doing. I might also point out that Sony's losses in gaming are becoming less and less, they will be profitable by this time next year and recover the losses. It's not a major concern. Your last point is absurd. Expecting a $600 system with no games in it's first year to compete with a $300 system that had the PS2 lineup is insane. I think it's common knowledge that the PS3 is under performing but it's being hyperboled out of proportion by 360 and Wii fans. |
Complete hogwash. Good investments can make profit in the short and long term. Example, iPod made a profit from day one. It's also made record profit for every year since day one. Another example, Nintendo DS made a profit from day one. The DS has continued to make massive profits ever since launch. Apple and Nintendo have proven that you don't need to take losses to have enormous commercial success. Sony's losses in the PS3 is $3 billion and climbing. It's going to take years to climb out of that hole if ever. |
Hogwash my ass. Sony knew before they started making the console that there were going to be losses given the high manufacturing costs. They were prepared to take the losses to improve the stature of Bluray and they have done just that. Realize the reality or not, but Sony only over-priced their console to promote Blu-ray. There ultimate goal with the PS3 was that bluray is successful and they know that is a long term prospect. They even went to lengths to deny any games on their system that wasn't Blu-ray because they want to promote the format, simple as that.
Afterall, Sony could have just made a cheap upgrade from the PS2 and continue to sell consoles out the ass but they wanted to expand, they want to bring Blu-ray into power and they are using their gaming divison to do just that. I don't agree with the strategy because I am a gamer but clearly Sony are more concerned with other matters then gaming right now.
Whether we gamers want to accept it or not, the PS3 is not a console solely designed for gaming. It was built to fullfil other objectives as well.
...... at the current moment sony is losing what 200 dollars a ps3, your telling me by next year they are going to get +200 a ps3? And im guessing that also that includes dropping the price to what 399 or 299? that is complete crap. They did make an investment it was to trojan horse the blue ray into the homes, and its not working as well as they hoped. Lets just say (likely wont) that blue ray loses this format war.... what then. Investments do not always come back in the end, they are risky, and even sony will have a bad investment.
No, Sony is not losing $200 per console, that was the loss 1yr ago, not now. They are able to make consoles for around $640 now I believe.
Again, the PS3 focus is Blu-ray, not gaming. Blu-ray is a slow process but they will succeed in the end, whether the PS3 is overall profitable or not it will do the task which it was designed. Progress is slower then expected, but not to the point where the overall objective is in jeopardy.
