Here you go. I'll highlight key phrases and do note this guy's opinion counts because he's in charge of marketing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/resistance-2-is-sonys-answer-to-gears-2

Sony expects Resistance 2 to go "toe-to-toe against Gears of War 2" in the battle for your money this Christmas, according to US VP of product marketing Scott Steinberg.

I think one of the biggest games for us will be Resistance 2. We expect that, in November, to go toe-to-toe against Gears of War 2," Steinberg told GamesIndustry.biz during GDC.

"It will be our third-generation PS3 product. Insomniac, having shipped Resistance 1, quietly sold a million units. And then Ratchet & Clank last fall. This is the third on their technology shipping in November."

Steinberg also explained Sony's low GDC profile. "It just felt stronger coming from so many different high-calibre partners as opposed to self-congratulatory announcements from ourselves that the war is over and the standards battle is complete, and we have a standard and it is us," he said, referring to the recent HD-DVD discontinuation.

"It just felt like a keynote would be a little bit over the top," he added.

So do any of you feel Resistance 2 stood toe-to-toe in the battle for consumers' money this Christmas? No. Then it didn't meet expectations. Here's a quick definition to show us getting from not meeting expectations all the way to flop:

Failure (colloquially fail, phail or flop) in general refers to the state or condition of not meeting a desirable or intended objective.

If you need me to, I can post up the entire question and his answer and you can see for yourselves he wasn't taken out of context.

There we go. The inevitable Halo comparison. Why must it be compared to Halo? They're on different consoles, have different marketing budgets and, frankly, are of a different quality and in a different league. Halo 4 would be considered a flop with R2 numbers because Halo 3 will easily cross 10 million sales. Resistance: Fall of Man is just over 3 million sales. R2 will beat that.

You mention the first Resistance. Look at a sales comparison graph. Like the one OkeyDokey posted: http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Resistance%3A+Fall+of+Man+-+PS3&reg2=All&game2=&reg3=All&game3=Resistance+2+-+PS3&weeks=100. Resistance 2 is selling way better than Resistance: Fall of Man. It will almost definitely outsell RFOM. It is going to hit 3 million, and it should stop at around 3.5, very respectable. LittleBigPlanet will do even more.

You act as if Resistance 2 is done selling. It's not. It's been out for two and a half months. Most games continue to sell for what, three years? Look at RFOM's first week and first month, and look at its LTD.

I think anybody who expected R2 to sell even close to what Gears 2 sold needs a reality check. Pretty much everybody thought that Gears 2 >>>>>> R2 in sales. I suppose that's the way it should be, it is the better game, even if they literally changed nothing.

@ Onyxmeth
I was responding to Zenfolder at the top of the page. I didn't even see your posts in between (probably should have quoted him.)
Besides, I thought this thread was about PS3 fans overhyping games, not PR bull...

@Onyxmeth: Your covering all bases, you mention that a game can never live up to the hype that's created by fanboys yet at the same time your saying its the bar that Sony set themselves that determine what is a flop or not.

As for the topic, ridiculous hyping of a game is only bad in that there tends to be multiple threads stating the same thing over and over, but anybody who truly buys into hype deserve all they get. I can't say if PS3 fans are any worse than 360 or Wii fans, I don't own them consoles so I don't goto their forums.

The only person that should determine whether hype matches a game is the person who plays it, a great game is a great game irrespective of sales & hype.

another stupid thread bound to cause a mudslinging contest between 360 and ps3 people.

There's nothing wrong with hyping a game.

It gets annoying when they overhype games that look really average and just have "mind blowing graphics" that don't actually play well on the PS3 hardware (screen tears, pop-in etc).

I wouldn't mind if a original game (like LBP) gets hyped, but when it gets overhyped, 1.5 million sold is still "flop" territory thanks to the hype.

yeah, I wonder why people complain about this. why not go hype your own games? the hype space isn't used up

So your definition of a flop is based on some imaginary scale you developed in your mind using how many threads ps3 fans made about LBP. Good one...I must say

Some people don't like it if others over hype something. They feel that hype can reach a certain level where it generates an expectation for a gaming experience so unrealistic that it can never be fully realised when the gamer actually gets his hands on the game.

Thus leading to the inevitable 'let down' phase.

Another reason would be that some posters don't want to suffer a backlash when sales fail to fit the predictions of some of their fellow supporters, so they're probably asking for the hype to be toned down.

Further still would be the group that don't understand the hype alltogether. (Like the poster CAL4M1TY above me). Such posters have no interest in the title, and may even be angry that it's taking the limelight, while other, more interesting games in their opinion, are being overlooked.

A myriad of reasons for sure.

On another note: The word flop is being overused. I don't think some posters even fully understand what the significance of the word entails, or have, at any rate, meaningfully thought about it.

Hype is what an individual thinks of it. If you think a god is in KZ2 based of what some random internet user stated, you'd surely be dissappointed but if you think you are about to witness some amazing graphics on a console based on what some random person posted, you're probably right.