Dtewi,

Couldn't have said it better myself. That was rubbish from Oraichu!

I believe the Wii will dominate the current gen. And in 3 years come out with WiiHD and dominate again. By that time it will end up costing around the price it is now and I will be ready to get it. First in line baby! They should use the same concept as with the DS and DS Lite. Make some good improvements and keep the starting price the same. The demand will keep going for those waiting for the HD graphics and Everyone that had purchased HD tv's with the old Wii will trade theres in for the new shiny model. Especially if it's at $250 and the extra wiimotes all work!!!

I think the thing we've learned in videogames is that things that look like a sure bet don't always turn out as expected. I mean during the SNES days who could have predicted that a new player would enter the console wars and dominate like Sony did?  Who could have predicted Square leaving Nintendo for Sony?  Who during the PS2's first 3 years could have predicted that Nintendo would come back and dominate? Sure the Wii is doing amazing but that doesn't guarantee the Wii 2 will be top dog, in fact as we've seen it doesn't guarantee anything.

How would you anyone has put any major commitment behind other than party games and ports??? Whenever, and if ever, developers start moving franchises around ...... Tell me.

People shouldn't condemn leo-j for wishful thinking, and let this slip by.

Errr maybe crud at the moment in the future. Right now ps3 is looking a little cruddy compared to xbox so....

But i think it will switch around next year ps3 will have the better huge titles (unless microsoft has something really big coming up next year) ps3 will do better, right now xbox has the better lineup

I sort of see what you mean, although I believe them and it is wishful thinking, what Leo-j said was purely Sony fanboyism and bias whereas sporticus does have some authority in saying that b/c when a system does well major games flock to it.

On a separate note, I believe that whoever wins over Japan will ultimately win the console/handheld war and the Wii is winning Japan and looks to be in the future too so it is basically set in stone at least after next year.

@Legend11

 Although all those things that have happened are true they happened in between generations so if you're trying to say that the Wii's ultimate success is unsure those really do not lead to that final end; but I think you were just talking about the Wii 2's success, in which case, that's cool.

 O_o hmmz...

The Wii won't win... It doesn't appeal to everyone. The PS does... It always has. At the end of the day the ps3 will have casuals (downloadable Mini games, singstar, buzz etc), kids (new mmo, eye toy, singstar, kiddy games etc) medium players (platformers, racing cars games everyday games, sports) and Harcore - ff13,mgs, HS, Drakes,kz2,lair) etc etc etc

The wii appeals to casuals, hardcore and kiddies - no middle man.

xbox 360 - hardcore fps teens :(

This is only my opinion... not that it counts. I can't see Nintendo winning long term. maybe but numbers, but not by sheer desire to have one. Everyone know most ppl will have a Wii as a second console. I know I might for my daughter.

Not that they will be top dog. But they would have the best chances of being the top dog. At least it garantees that.

The two changes I have witnessed for top dog have been Nintendo -> Sony and Sony -> Nintendo. They both happened because the top dog screwed up and the underdog did everything right.

Nintendo -> Sony: Nintendo kept cartridges. Small space and higher risk due to cartridge costs. Sony had low cost publishing with cds.

Sony -> Nintendo: Sony went for high cost development and high cost console. Nintendo for low cost development and innovation.

Having witnessed the last change, this one is just too similar.

Usually, top dogs don't lose their spot just because someone else has something better (look at the iPod). They also have to make big mistakes on the way. So, it doesn't mean they will continue in the lead, like you said. But they have the highest chances for it.

Sorry, you say the PS3 appeals to everyone and not the Wii?

You're saying the Wii lacks the "middle gamers" which you define as people who like "platformers, racing car games everyday games sports". Aside from the ridiculous assertion that Nintendo doesn't appeal to platformer fans, you then have racing games, where Wii has the second largest racing franchise in the world (Mario Kart) and sports games where the Wii has the best selling sports game ever (Wii Sports) as well as the potential for some fantastic sports games (Golf, Tennis, etc). I have no idea what "everyday games" are.

Sorry, but the reason why the Wii is selling so well is that it appeals to everyone. And the PS3 is doing poorly because it doesn't appeal to everyone. It's as simple as that. 

 damn straight.

if nintendo wins this gen (comfortably) then it will be up to nintendo to loose next gen by rising development costs or something else that will piss 3rd parties of

You're right to be skeptical at this early juncture. However, bear in mind that all these main series titles the PS3 is getting now were ascertained well before the Wii or PS3 were released. Many developers assumed the PS3 would be a runaway success and the Wii would be little more than a mediocre novelty. Obviously that's not what happened though and many developers are now admitting they've made an error in not being ready for the Wii's stellar success and many have even pledged near exclusive support of it in upcomming main series titles. The PS3 is for the most part only getting the third party titles it is now because many developers leapt before they looked. Incidentally the 360 is only getting as many ported third party titles it is now because developers who jumped on the PS3 bandwagon early have realized their mistake and need to port their games onto the only other system that can handle them in order to break even. I know this paints a very biased and negative view of the 360 and PS3, but this is in a nutshell how the drama for developers is playing out. Obviously there are exceptions to these scenarios (for example MGS4 and FFXIII would have always been PS3 most likely), but this is the most common trend we're seeing.