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c0rd said:

I always thought the answer was pretty simple: the 360 helps keep the PS3 alive.

Just look at the sales of the biggest HD games this gen has produced: GTA IV, CoD4/WaW, Assassin's Creed, etc. The PS3 has a huge portion of these sales, and as long as that doesn't change, things should be fine. The PS3 userbase will probably be nearing 30mil by the end of next year, which is easily enough to justify porting HD games onto it.

You listed many failed consoles, but didn't mention the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive. That system was stuck in second place, yet had a decent lifespan (could've been longer if Sega didn't screw it up), and the PS3 is on track to outsell it within the next 2 years.

 

 is it better if those games are PS3 exclusives? For one thing, the 360 isnt that cheap either only now when they cut the price. And both games on the 360 and PS3 are 60 dollars each, and both these consoles are also hard to develop and programmed for when its first introduced. 360 was dual core not single base so I doubt SONY was happy with 360 sales. Especially that MS taking PS3 exclusives

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

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Thanks for the interesting points of view everyone.



because the PS3 needs to make a profit and then Sony can start cutting prices... it's not like it isn't trending higher then the Xbox and GC



Who here thinks, that 299$ costing x360 60GB model would outsell 299$ costing 80GB PS3 model?

It`s just a matter of time.
PS3 was outselling x360 for whole year, then by the end thnx to pricecut and crisis x360 started outselling PS3, but with a bigger advantage.

What prevent 299$ PS3 from outselling x360 by A LOT in 2009 after it gets that price?

After reaching 299$ price there will be NOTHING about to complain on PS3.
Those who won`t buy PS3 at this price, will mean, that they are not interested in PS3.

As i said, this is a matter of time. Today x360, tomorrow PS3. That tomorrow will come at the day of 299$ PS3 price.

And in JAPAN, there is PS3(the only HD console) and Wii.
x360 is DEAD.
Japan 3rd party support = PS3 WIN.

And as we can see(Cry On cancelled), M$ has no more intention to waste money on that timed exclusive support. They FAILED in Japan.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

leo-j said:

The ps3 is the best console sony has ever made, if people dont care, then oh well then, its there loss for not getting it.

 

 

 So what PS3 exclusive except MGS4 worth mentioning right now? And Im talking 3rd parties here not 2nd or 1st parties...



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

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This is actually a common response in every generation. Concede the loss, but find the silver lining. Obviously there is nothing wrong with looking on the bright side of things. There is a saying there is no use crying over spilled milk. Just as there is no reason to become twisted over your console getting the least support.

The important thing is that the PS3 has lasted long enough, and has sold enough that major third party developers have developed cross platform engines. That means as far as the large developers that are porting whores are concerned you will be getting their games.

The console will continue to lose small third party developer support to the other two consoles. That is a given, and it was honestly a given when the generation started, and the PS3s novel architecture ensured that development costs would be disproportionate to its user base. That said it does hurt the owners, because they are going to miss out on those unexpected gems.

That all said its not entirely bleak even if Sony discontinued production the console would probably receive real support for a couple more years. With a reasonable back catalog the console should at least meet the basic needs of the owners for the remainder of this generation. Having the weakest library does not equate to being a wasted expenditure unless your standard is the best or nothing at all. However I think if you bought the PS3 at any other point then launch then you probably knew well enough the amount of support you would be getting.

I will say that the best lineup line is crap. It was crap last year. It was crap this year. It will be crap next year. Sony has a propensity to announce games over a year or two years away from market, and so unless they set a date you should always treat it as being two years away at least. Hope for the best expect the worse. You should also expect better from the competition when it shows its tight lipped. It is like the simplest yet most effective trap. Posters fall into it time and again.



CrazzyMan said:
Who here thinks, that 299$ costing x360 60GB model would outsell 299$ costing 80GB PS3 model?

It`s just a matter of time.
PS3 was outselling x360 for whole year, then by the end thxn to pricecut and crisis x360 started outselling PS3, but with a bigger advantage.

What prevent 299$ PS3 from outselling x360 by A LOT in 2009 after it gets that price?

After reaching 299$ price there will be NOTHING about to complain on PS3.
Those who won`t buy PS3, at this price will mean, that they are not interested in PS3.

As i said, this is a matter of time. Today x360, tomorrow PS3. That tomorrow will come at the day of 299$ PS3 price.

And in JAPAN, there is PS3(the only HD console) and Wii.
x360 is DEAD.
Japan 3rd party support = PS3 WIN.

And as we can see(Cry On cancelled), M$ has no more intention to waste money on that timed exclusive support. The FAILED in Japan.

I agree thoroughly and completely with this post.

 



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yushire said:
leo-j said:

The ps3 is the best console sony has ever made, if people dont care, then oh well then, its there loss for not getting it.

 

 

 So what PS3 exclusive except MGS4 worth mentioning right now? And Im talking 3rd parties here not 2nd or 1st parties...

Not many.. but why does it matter? The ps3 has most of the 3rd part games released this gen anyway.

 

 



 

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Dodece said:
This is actually a common response in every generation. Concede the loss, but find the silver lining. Obviously there is nothing wrong with looking on the bright side of things. There is a saying there is no use crying over spilled milk. Just as there is no reason to become twisted over your console getting the least support.

The important thing is that the PS3 has lasted long enough, and has sold enough that major third party developers have developed cross platform engines. That means as far as the large developers that are porting whores are concerned you will be getting their games.

The console will continue to lose small third party developer support to the other two consoles. That is a given, and it was honestly a given when the generation started, and the PS3s novel architecture ensured that development costs would be disproportionate to its user base. That said it does hurt the owners, because they are going to miss out on those unexpected gems.

That all said its not entirely bleak even if Sony discontinued production the console would probably receive real support for a couple more years. With a reasonable back catalog the console should at least meet the basic needs of the owners for the remainder of this generation. Having the weakest library does not equate to being a wasted expenditure unless your standard is the best or nothing at all. However I think if you bought the PS3 at any other point then launch then you probably knew well enough the amount of support you would be getting.

I will say that the best lineup line is crap. It was crap last year. It was crap this year. It will be crap next year. Sony has a propensity to announce games over a year or two years away from market, and so unless they set a date you should always treat it as being two years away at least. Hope for the best expect the worse. You should also expect better from the competition when it shows its tight lipped. It is like the simplest yet most effective trap. Posters fall into it time and again.

WOW good post... its like an ending in a novel so in what you're implying this is the end of PS brand as we know it? :(

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

yushire said:
leo-j said:

The ps3 is the best console sony has ever made, if people dont care, then oh well then, its there loss for not getting it.

 

 

 So what PS3 exclusive except MGS4 worth mentioning right now? And Im talking 3rd parties here not 2nd or 1st parties...

 

Valkyria Chronicles

EDIT: There are others, but MM took down the 2008 section of the PS3 Exlusive list... and I'm too lazy to search up games.... soo.....



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