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selnor on 14 December 2008
forevercloud3000 said:
@jetrii2

My MGS4 has about a 4-5 min install initially, and a 30 secs to 1min install between acts. Most of the time it doesn't even feel like a install rather a loadtime screen. It goes so fast you dont have the time to care.

What I am saying is...
if FFXIII is 4 disc minimum for 360. that is 8+8+8+8=32minutes. Now I am not arguing this as a bad thing, far from it. That was never my point. My point was that someone used 360 installs as incentive to get the 360 version of FFXIII when it in actuallity is neither a good thing nor a bad thing. it is 0, it ads nothing to the debate at all.

Bad disc drives(-1)
installs added(+1)
Verdict: 0

 

 We have already been over this previously in this thread but heres the jist.

I think your missing the point here. Now installs are available on 360, if a feveloper optimizes the game when the game is chosen for install, every game that is installed on 360 has the ability to perform better than it's PS3 counterpart. Because it never ever has to access the disc other than the first 10 secs to make sure you own the game.

PS3 install still has to read off the bluray as well as HDD.

Yes you do have to load each disc on, but the performance can be better with installs now on 360. Can read data much faster than any DVD or BD spinning disc.

Any game in 2009 that is coming to 360 can be optimized for those who install. So it provides a decent reason for people to do it, performance gain, as well as noisless console.



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Seraphic_Sixaxis on 14 December 2008
numonex said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Final Fantasy XIII? PS3. Along with its exclusive ww cousin Versus XIII. (If they come out around the same time. which i doubt but me)

Im looking forward to Versus far more though, there latest trailer sealed the deal for versus for me.

Although Regular XIII still looks solid.

 

I believe FF XIII Versus will be released on PS3 before FF XIII appears.

 

I hope your right numo, im already a hardcore fan of it. :)



numonex on 14 December 2008

America/European release predictions: FF XIII Versus in late 2009 and FF XIII in 2010.



forevercloud3000 on 14 December 2008
selnor said:
forevercloud3000 said:
@jetrii2

My MGS4 has about a 4-5 min install initially, and a 30 secs to 1min install between acts. Most of the time it doesn't even feel like a install rather a loadtime screen. It goes so fast you dont have the time to care.

What I am saying is...
if FFXIII is 4 disc minimum for 360. that is 8+8+8+8=32minutes. Now I am not arguing this as a bad thing, far from it. That was never my point. My point was that someone used 360 installs as incentive to get the 360 version of FFXIII when it in actuallity is neither a good thing nor a bad thing. it is 0, it ads nothing to the debate at all.

Bad disc drives(-1)
installs added(+1)
Verdict: 0

 

 We have already been over this previously in this thread but heres the jist.

I think your missing the point here. Now installs are available on 360, if a feveloper optimizes the game when the game is chosen for install, every game that is installed on 360 has the ability to perform better than it's PS3 counterpart. Because it never ever has to access the disc other than the first 10 secs to make sure you own the game.

PS3 install still has to read off the bluray as well as HDD.

Yes you do have to load each disc on, but the performance can be better with installs now on 360. Can read data much faster than any DVD or BD spinning disc.

Any game in 2009 that is coming to 360 can be optimized for those who install. So it provides a decent reason for people to do it, performance gain, as well as noisless console.

 

I understand where you are coming from. Yet my point is that it is not concrete whether installs for FFXIII will have any effect for 360 version. I have been warned of some games not getting any boosted advantages from being installed, even some cases of the game actually running SLOWER(I believe the game was Blue Dragon, could be wrong). It is not a sure bet Plus. The only reason Installs were ever even implemented on 360 was simply to evade disc reader problems due to the faulty hardware that is the 360. faster load times for SOME games is an after effect.



      

      

      

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Neoraf on 14 December 2008

Another prediction:
FF XIII Versus will get simultaneous release in America/Europe on 360/PS3.

Yep, after the latest moves of Square and the new affiliation with Microsoft, I strongly believe that PS3 will lose another exclusive. This one is called: Versus.



     

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Seraphic_Sixaxis on 14 December 2008
numonex said:
America/European release predictions: FF XIII Versus in late 2009 and FF XIII in 2010.

Sounds good. hope your right though.

 



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 14 December 2008
Neoraf said:
Another prediction:
FF XIII Versus will get simultaneous release in America/Europe on 360/PS3.

Yep, after the latest moves of Square and the new affiliation with Microsoft, I strongly believe that PS3 will lose another exclusive. This one is called: Versus.

 

As for your prediction, i hope it doesnt come true, of course unless we get Star Ocean 4 to then were even. if not hell no.

Also you dont seem to know whos behind Versus do you? Wada says as long as "hes" happy then there all happy.

Neo meet mr.Tetsuya Nomura  thats all that needs to be said.



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 14 December 2008
selnor said:
piggychan said:
selnor said:
 

 

 It's amazing that last gen this would have been all blue boxes. Amazing how now Square do more for Xbox.

By any chance do you have Tales of Veperia, Blue Daragon and Lost Odyssey. You should take photo of all together that would look so cool.

Sadly Tales of Vesperia still not released in Europe yet.. I'd still like to buy Cudcept saga but thats JP/USA too

 

 That does look bloody awesome. Definately the console to own for JRPG's. One more favour. If you can take a photo of all your RPG's together (both WRPG and JRPG) I'll be a happy man. Also I guess your getting Cry On and Star Ocean next year? As well as Tales Of Veperia.

Only 3 of those games are exclusive to the 360 IU, LO & BD. everything else is on PS2/PS3 and PC. so no its not the "the" console to own for JRPG's its a great one for sure, but not the best.

 



Staude on 14 December 2008
Neoraf said:
forevercloud3000, what if it load faster on the 360 on the Hard Drive?
Who knows?
What if I want to play FF13 on a completely silent console? (I can hear the soft noise of my blu-ray disc reading in my PS3)

What if I prefer Achievements?
What if I love my 360 controller more than my PS3 controller?
What if I want to encourage Square to work multiplatform?
What if I want to support an american company (Microsoft) in this US economical meltdown?

What if an North American console better fits my needs?

What if we discover after release that the 360 version runs better? (Square is on Microsoft side now, don't forget)
Anything is possible.

What if an astroids falls down and hits your 360 thus obliterating it ?

 

Yes there are endless possibilities. But the fact is that the fans of the 360 makes as much noise (if not more) then the whole of the ps3.  Don't turn it around as if the 360 is better because you can now install the games. The only reason microsoft enabled that is because of the insane noise the drive makes and the fact that it scratches and renders the discs useless.

 

 



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badgenome on 14 December 2008
forevercloud3000 said:
selnor said:
forevercloud3000 said:
@jetrii2

My MGS4 has about a 4-5 min install initially, and a 30 secs to 1min install between acts. Most of the time it doesn't even feel like a install rather a loadtime screen. It goes so fast you dont have the time to care.

What I am saying is...
if FFXIII is 4 disc minimum for 360. that is 8+8+8+8=32minutes. Now I am not arguing this as a bad thing, far from it. That was never my point. My point was that someone used 360 installs as incentive to get the 360 version of FFXIII when it in actuallity is neither a good thing nor a bad thing. it is 0, it ads nothing to the debate at all.

Bad disc drives(-1)
installs added(+1)
Verdict: 0

 

 We have already been over this previously in this thread but heres the jist.

I think your missing the point here. Now installs are available on 360, if a feveloper optimizes the game when the game is chosen for install, every game that is installed on 360 has the ability to perform better than it's PS3 counterpart. Because it never ever has to access the disc other than the first 10 secs to make sure you own the game.

PS3 install still has to read off the bluray as well as HDD.

Yes you do have to load each disc on, but the performance can be better with installs now on 360. Can read data much faster than any DVD or BD spinning disc.

Any game in 2009 that is coming to 360 can be optimized for those who install. So it provides a decent reason for people to do it, performance gain, as well as noisless console.

 

I understand where you are coming from. Yet my point is that it is not concrete whether installs for FFXIII will have any effect for 360 version. I have been warned of some games not getting any boosted advantages from being installed, even some cases of the game actually running SLOWER(I believe the game was Blue Dragon, could be wrong). It is not a sure bet Plus. The only reason Installs were ever even implemented on 360 was simply to evade disc reader problems due to the faulty hardware that is the 360. faster load times for SOME games is an after effect.

So far, only Halo 3 has worse load times. A lot of games show drastic improvements.