This - another woman's voice. If women say that's the proper way, well ...

Lmao dude its cool it happens but a word of advice.. that whole straight to the point your beautiful crap doesn't work.. especially if they don't know you.. ya gotta ease into it otherwise you come off too strong and creep em out.. just act normal and don't show an interest and make it seem like you just wanna get to know em.. and if that fails just be a douche... as sad as it is women love it.. most anyways.. people just like what they can't have and women love confidence.. anyways... be cool don't show interest if that fails be a douche... don't call em names just act like you dont give a crap about what they have to say... take notes... Love Doc out.

Self deprecation also works.

The short answer is that you just find the right girl and don't give each other any reason to mistrust the other. The long answer is too long for me to go about writing right now, 4 hours before one of my finals.

Do you know why i compared the woman to a tiger? It's not because the woman is actually a threat.

It's because platonically loving a woman kills you inside. Doing nothing about this love kills you inside, you need to know if you have a chance with her and go for it or that it's going nowhere and move on and forget her, or else the pain can be unbearable.

Love is irrational, yes. But you need to be rational when going to talk to the girl, try to get her to like you instead of "hey you're hot let's get busy?" or something, like the OP did.

And this is what i was trying to explain with a nice, simple and bloody metaphor to help the OP stop suffering. Of course, maybe it's not love that he is feeling.

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or you can realize women are not tigeresses and that you can easily talk to them. Just figure out something they like and talk about it. Women tend to like talking about people, clothes, feelings, and events that are social. Shy/ non social girls won't have this interest.

Self confidence works MUCH better.

To get more used to talking to people, I recomend going some place you rarely go but know people and get to know thema  bit better by starting to go more regularly. Then start talking to lots of people there are the time. It works better if you don't care about them, becuase you are just practicing on them and if they are not receptive it won't matter. I don't recomend dating someone just for practice, but its easier to date soomeone you think is nice rather than someone you have a crush on.

1. Hawkeye (about the talking, not about the self-deprecation) is right but you don't need to work that hard, even the shy ones will usually talk one-on-one. Ask "how was your day?" or "What's going on?" and then they will talk and talk and talk. If you don't want to poke your eyeballs out after a few minutes, that means you like her.

2. Many nerds get this far but then screw it up again by talking about their problems or concerns with life. Early in a friendship with a woman, if you do this you will be her friend, forever. You don't want to be her friend. You either want to be her boyfriend or you want to bang her. Listen, joke or positive story, listen. Then listen some more.

3. She will mention something relationship related (an ex, a former celebrity crush, what she likes men to wear)... Use this as a cue to talk about something SLIGHTLY sexual, you need to be savvy here. Your not telling her outright that she's sexy or that you want her, but you are showing her three things. That she made you think about sex "subconsciously", that now she has the image in her head, and you are comfortable enough to talk about SLIGHTLY risque subjects with her.

She will be the one who pushes it further. They always do. She will give you clear signs, if she doesn't then she is too unsure of herself or not a good communicator and you don't want to be with her anyway. Trust me.

(Note: by SLIGHTLY, I mean slightly. You have to be the judge but do not suddenly start talking about anal if she's talking underwear and do not talk underwear if she's talking about candle light.)

Women say looks matter, but they don't. They like to talk.

My personal limits, for when I was more single then I am now.
15-18 = 2 week limit
19-25 = 2 day limit
26+ = 2 hour limit.

These are/were my time allotments that I would wait for a sign, don't waste your time past this or you are the pathetic guy that they all make fun to the guy they're fucking because you hang around them all the time and listen to all their problems. Past this and you are their bitch. Of course, you may want to just be friends...

Self deprecation is a beautiful art.