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FishyJoe said:
We also could be in the midst of a very deep recession by the time March rolls around. It could be a very bad time to try to get people to spend money.

recession eh? sounds like some kind of M$ ploy if you ask me...

 



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It will be LBP huge.



i dont understand why ppl think it will be huge in the first place. KZ1 wasnt that great.



Username2324 said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Username2324 said:
dolemit3 said:

I know it looks fantastic and stuff, but it's being released after the holidays in one of the "quiet" months so the legs will be non-existants. Plus it's an exclusive on the PS3 and the only PS3 exclusive that did great so far is MGS4 which is a proven quality title, unlike Killzone.

No competition, no other games people will want to buy, it'll do great.

No competition? I seriously doubt it. Halo Wars?

1 game on a different platform..... Look what just happened with Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, LittleBigPlanet, Gears of War 2, and Guitar Hero World Tour all being released so close together.

Killzone will be the only big release for the PS3 at that time if I'm not mistaken.

 

 

To be completely honest with you here, lol, the 360 games sold millions of units in 48 hours, and the PS3 games sold so poorly, the PS3 fans flamed the site because they assumed they were under-tracked.

That's not fanboyism, that's simply what happened.

I've heard a few explainations.

The most likely is the lower userbase of the PS3 in America, a very front-loaded gaming territory who loves FPS.

Also, another great explaination is that PS3 owners like shooters less than 360 owners.

Finally, 360 owners like to buy more software than PS3 owners for whatever reason. The most common explaination for that is the 360 is a more "core" console for nerds and manchildren. I might contend that a lot of people bought PS3's for the Blu-Ray feature, but that'd draw a flame or two.

Anyway, yes big shooters can sell well even in the fact of mega competition.

If any of those explainations I've mentioned are true, then yes, they will also apply to KZ2.

Couple of things:

1. The FPS country is America, and the PS3 has a very small piece of the pie here.

2. Microsoft is putting a Halo game up against KZ2's launch. The game has the word Halo in it, it's on the 360, it's competition to anything.

3. PS3 owners don't like shooters as much as 360 owners. Yes that's a generalization, but it's a good assumption, seeing as how the majority of PS3 owners would be from Others and Japan, and not America.

 

So, it's either stick with those explainations, which were all lain before me and reinforced in the face of R2 sales.

....or admit that R2 just didn't sell well because it's R2, and had it been KZ2, it would have sold very well and had a higher attach rate.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:

 

That's not fanboyism, that's simply what happened.

I've heard a few explainations..

The most likely is the lower userbase of the PS3 in America, a very front-loaded gaming territory who loves FPS

Also, another great explaination is that PS3 owners like shooters less than 360 owners.

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I think that PS3 owners like blu ray movies the most.

 



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JaggedSac said:
It will be LBP huge.

 

That's a pretty lofty prediction.  I don't know if KZ2 can make it into the top 20 reviewed games of all time.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Username2324 said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Username2324 said:
dolemit3 said:

I know it looks fantastic and stuff, but it's being released after the holidays in one of the "quiet" months so the legs will be non-existants. Plus it's an exclusive on the PS3 and the only PS3 exclusive that did great so far is MGS4 which is a proven quality title, unlike Killzone.

No competition, no other games people will want to buy, it'll do great.

No competition? I seriously doubt it. Halo Wars?

1 game on a different platform..... Look what just happened with Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, LittleBigPlanet, Gears of War 2, and Guitar Hero World Tour all being released so close together.

Killzone will be the only big release for the PS3 at that time if I'm not mistaken.

 

 

To be completely honest with you here, lol, the 360 games sold millions of units in 48 hours, and the PS3 games sold so poorly, the PS3 fans flamed the site because they assumed they were under-tracked.

That's not fanboyism, that's simply what happened.

I've heard a few explainations.

The most likely is the lower userbase of the PS3 in America, a very front-loaded gaming territory who loves FPS.

Also, another great explaination is that PS3 owners like shooters less than 360 owners.

Finally, 360 owners like to buy more software than PS3 owners for whatever reason. The most common explaination for that is the 360 is a more "core" console for nerds and manchildren. I might contend that a lot of people bought PS3's for the Blu-Ray feature, but that'd draw a flame or two.

Anyway, yes big shooters can sell well even in the fact of mega competition.

If any of those explainations I've mentioned are true, then yes, they will also apply to KZ2.

Couple of things:

1. The FPS country is America, and the PS3 has a very small piece of the pie here.

2. Microsoft is putting a Halo game up against KZ2's launch. The game has the word Halo in it, it's on the 360, it's competition to anything.

3. PS3 owners don't like shooters as much as 360 owners. Yes that's a generalization, but it's a good assumption, seeing as how the majority of PS3 owners would be from Others and Japan, and not America.

 

So, it's either stick with those explainations, which were all lain before me and reinforced in the face of R2 sales.

....or admit that R2 just didn't sell well because it's R2, and had it been KZ2, it would have sold very well and had a higher attach rate.

LittleBigPlanet has done very well, and it will most likely become a million seller next week, which is very impressive considering its a completely new kind of game. Resistance 2 performed good to me, and I expect Europes sales to be quite a bit higher, however I do not understand what happened with Motorstorm 2, only that perhaps it was smothered by other releases.

Anyways, according to this site the attach rate for 360 is considerably higher than the PS3 which explains while PS3 games can sell well, they do not sell millions in a couple weeks (except for a few titles). But I think too many people try to grade the PS3's success off of big hitter 360 games.

I look at sales on a worldwide level, and on a worldwide level, LBP is doing and will continue to do good, Resistance 2 will do good, and hopefully Motorstorm 2 will pick up for the holidays.

Back to the OP Killzone 2, on a worldwide level, will be very successful and I can't believe how many ignorant people there are here who will base the quality of a game on how many it sells in its first week.

 



It will do good but I don't expect it to be huge, probably about 3.5-4 million LTD, but you never know by February (I do believe this is when it's releasing) the PS3's userbase should be much bigger because of the holidays so it could have a fairly good opening week.



Just like every other first party sony game, this title will be better quality than anything on the Xbox or Wii yet fail to go much past 2 Million. Sony can not market games to the masses, and as long as that happens non of their games will ever see any success.



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