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Phrancheyez said:
1. This isn't news..it was a few months ago though..

2. PS3 won't use these..ever. PS4 won't use 400 gig discs either.

3. @epsilon - graphics can. More space = more space for higher res textures and uncompressed sound. So in theory, you can get a higher quality game with more space..but regardless, it won't happen this gen or next imo.

Textures don't typically take up all *that* much space....unless you're using tons of megatextures a la with the current Doom engine....and saying that you're not necessarily going to make a longer game but a normal length game with much higher texture resolution wouldn't make sense either, because the RSX wouldn't be able to handle it.

 



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i could see the ps4 using bluray disks with that much space, but not the ps3.



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kind of useless, and even if a game is that big, imagine the installs.



 

 

 

 

the ps3 cant read 16 layer i guess



Pointless.. one thing I hate about the ps3 is the mandatory install of games.. grr..
you get so excited to play it.. then ba-bumm.. you wait till it is installed.. boo !



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Marty8370 said:
BMaker11 said:
PS3 can't read a Blu-ray that big

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Quote:

Pioneer mentions that its disc requires the same objective lens specifications as existing Blu-ray discs, making backward-compatibility "possible." 


 http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15063

So guess what the PS3 could read a 400Gb Blu-ray disc.

 

I guess you're wrong!

Original source:

http://pioneer.jp/press-e/2008/0707-1.html

Jul 7, 2008, Tokyo

Pioneer Corporation

Pioneer Succeeds in Developing World's First 16-Layer Optical Disc
-Big Step toward Future Large-Capacity Archive System-

July 7, 2008, Tokyo, Japan - Pioneer Corporation has succeeded in developing a 16-layer read-only optical disc with a capacity of 400 gigabytes for the first time in the world*1. Its per-layer capacity is 25 gigabytes, which is the same as that of a Blu-ray Disc (BD). This multilayer technology will also be applicable to multilayer recordable discs. This development has bolstered Pioneer's confidence in the feasibility of a large-capacity optical disc, which is expected to become necessary in the near future.

For multilayer optical discs, it has been difficult to obtain clear signals from each recording layer in a stable manner due to crosstalk from adjacent layers and transmission loss. Utilizing the optical disc production technology that it has developed in the DVD field, Pioneer solved these problems by, among other things, using a disc structure that can reduce crosstalk from adjacent layers, resulting in a 16-layer optical disc that can playback high-quality signals from every layer.

As for the read-out system, Pioneer achieved stability in the playback of recorded signals by employing a wide-range spherical aberration compensator and light-receiving element that can read out weak signals at a high signal-to-noise ratio in the optical pick-up mechanism. Since the optical specifications of the objective lens, such as NA (Numerical Aperture)*2, are the same as those for the existing BD discs, it is possible to maintain compatibility between the new 16-layer optical disc and the BD discs.

The 16-layer optical disc technology, capable of storing much more data than the conventional discs on one disc, will greatly reduce the number of discs to be used and therefore contribute to the conservation of resources.

Pioneer will present the details of this research at the International Symposium on Optical Memory and Optical Data Storage 2008 (ISOM/ODS2008) to be held in Hawaii from July 13.

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Does the ps3 employ a wide-range spherical aberration compensator or a light-receiving element that can read out weak signals at a high signal-to-noise ratio ?

Guess what, the super-duper pioneer drive is compatible with super-duper discs and blu ray, thats it.

They don't mention any other drive !



The PS3 reads Single layer BD's at 9MB per second and Dual Layer at 4.5MB..... that's gonna be some amazing loading.....

There has yet been an uncompressed game that needs a little over a 50GB disk....... Wasted space......

It's possible for PS3's and other Bluray Players to read 4layer 100GB disk with just a firmware update, as stated by both Pioneer and Samsung [they've made said disks....]... sure the same goes for a 16 layer???

This is all great tech but we just don't need it for games or movies right now...... later on when BD drives are much faster and Cheaper [the ps3 is 400 bucks yet it's BD drive is only a 2x reader] then this tech will become more practical....



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Dgc1808 said:
The PS3 reads Single layer BD's at 9MB per second and Dual Layer at 4.5MB..... that's gonna be some amazing loading.....

There has yet been an uncompressed game that needs a little over a 50GB disk....... Wasted space......

It's possible for PS3's and other Bluray Players to read 4layer 100GB disk with just a firmware update, as stated by both Pioneer and Samsung [they've made said disks....]... sure the same goes for a 16 layer???

This is all great tech but we just don't need it for games or movies right now...... later on when BD drives are much faster and Cheaper [the ps3 is 400 bucks yet it's BD drive is only a 2x reader] then this tech will become more practical....

 

I was gonna say the SAME EXACT THING!!!

 

But can you imagen 30 gig mandatory install??????????????

 

PS3 has its ups and it has its down and blue ray is both.



Garnett said:
Dgc1808 said:
The PS3 reads Single layer BD's at 9MB per second and Dual Layer at 4.5MB..... that's gonna be some amazing loading.....

There has yet been an uncompressed game that needs a little over a 50GB disk....... Wasted space......

It's possible for PS3's and other Bluray Players to read 4layer 100GB disk with just a firmware update, as stated by both Pioneer and Samsung [they've made said disks....]... sure the same goes for a 16 layer???

This is all great tech but we just don't need it for games or movies right now...... later on when BD drives are much faster and Cheaper [the ps3 is 400 bucks yet it's BD drive is only a 2x reader] then this tech will become more practical....

 

I was gonna say the SAME EXACT THING!!!

 

But can you imagen 30 gig mandatory install??????????????

 

PS3 has its ups and it has its down and blue ray is both.

30GB???? D=...... Um... sure....  When 5 Terabyte SATA 2.5' HDD's are 150$ and can read and write at 500GB's a second I won't mind at all XD

But yeah, I hope the Next SONY console will have atleast a 8x or 12x drive, they should be cheaper 4-5 years from now. These Magnatory installs are getting Extreme, to many games might start needing them....

 



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Dgc1808 said:
The PS3 reads Single layer BD's at 9MB per second and Dual Layer at 4.5MB..... that's gonna be some amazing loading.....

There has yet been an uncompressed game that needs a little over a 50GB disk....... Wasted space......

It's possible for PS3's and other Bluray Players to read 4layer 100GB disk with just a firmware update, as stated by both Pioneer and Samsung [they've made said disks....]... sure the same goes for a 16 layer???

This is all great tech but we just don't need it for games or movies right now...... later on when BD drives are much faster and Cheaper [the ps3 is 400 bucks yet it's BD drive is only a 2x reader] then this tech will become more practical....

 

 Your wrong

PS3 reads both single or dual layer BD's at x2(9Mb per second). It's Blu-ray movies which are read slower x1.5(6.5Mb).

Maybe we don't Blu-ray disc's this size right now for game or movies, but it's nice too have the option when needed.

BTW Its Pioneer and Hitachi that made the said disc's not Samsung.

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