Denial, denial, denial. I don't care if he has 360 games, his statement is still what it is. First of all his statement is void since it's a 3rd party title. 3rd party titles are always up for grabs. This is a battle of corporate giants. Videogaming hasn't been the same. Sony and Microsoft are at each others throats and thats that. Microsoft isn't doing anything to Sony that Sony hasn't done to the weaker guys (monitarily) in Nintendo and Sega during earlier gens. The competition is getting really close. That is all.

You are fooling yourself if you think that these games going MultiPlat are not part of the MS agenda to stomp Sony into the ground. When Sony sprinted ahead of Sega and Nintendo it was with it's own games. Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider, GTA(to console), Dark Cloud, Xenogears, etc. They ushered in new IPs to claim their superiority. Games like FF migrated as well but not becuz Sony moneyhatted, they PUBLISHED the game for Square after Nin decided to withdraw theirs for Square going MP. In return they turned exclusive to Sony. Sony in no way went gunning for all of Sega's and Nin's exclusives. Sony wins over developers "fair"ly for every company has a fighting chance. MS has no rival when it comes to funds. They just keep handing out the huge checks to these companies to either have Sony Exclusives go MP or jip the PS3 out of features and such. EA MADDEN 07 ring a bell? How the hell did MS KNOW that the PS3 version would not run 60FPS before it released?

Sony has had Crash Bandicoot, , Jak games, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, Dark Cloud, Ratchet and Clank,Resistance, Uncharted, Warhawk, Wipeout, Legend of Dragoon,WKC,Heavenly Sword, etc.
MS has brought in Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Mass Effect, KOTOR, KOTOR2.

These are the games actually in Sony's and MS's actual 1st/2nd Party Repatoir. Games that were not stolen from another console but born and raised.

Sony knows about how to make good games, seeing as NONE of their 1st party is bad. MS not so much, hense they spend so much time stealing Sony's exclusives.

And Sony has NEVER paid for EXCLUSIVITY!!!!!!!
They only shell out money if they get to publish the game, that is it. You only want to believe they do because MS does. Sony gets the developers to do games for them with excellent hardware and sufficient advertising.

 No.

forevercloud3000, I vowed a long time ago to never argue with you again because of reasons that are obvious. I can only hope someone else has the tolerance.

On topic though, a lot of people are saying that Microsoft are only doing what Sony did back in the day, but that is not necessarily true. What Sony did made everyone make their games EXCLUSIVE to them. Microsoft is merely making sure that the games are available for the 360 as well - Causing no loss for the PS3-owners, but only gain for the 360-owners.

Of course this is bad for Sony as a company, I suppose, but hey, as forevercloud3000 said, "NONE of their 1st party is bad", so then why is it even an issue? If their own games are so awesome this shouldn't be a problem, right?

But wouldn't it be fair to say that when Sony entered the gaming market back in 1994 that it was EASY for them to obtain exclusive 3RD party games like Tomb raider, Crash bandicoot, Time crisis and Tekken ect simply because they had a far bigger bank balance than what Sega and Nintendo had? (You know, Highest bidder wins ect)

Lastly how long did it take Sony before they had the decent 1ST/2ND party studios/Developers that they boast today?

Microsoft will have more 1ST/2ND party developers and studios than they currently have in the upcoming years, You can bank on that...............

Do you realize how nonsensical everything you just said, is?

3rd party games don't belong to Sony. Especially if Sony doesn't fund them. Microsoft has also brought big games to the table, like Halo, which you pointed out. They funded 3rd parties, like Sony did in the beginning.

Games like FFVII.

Not funding 3rd parties, and not spending any money on 3rd party support isn't good, and saying "Well our first party support is good enough" isn't an excuse for it. Ask Nintendo how bad the flack can get when you don't support 3rd parties. It's worse when you're a core company like Gamecube Era Nintendo or PS3 era Sony.

All companies have great, great first party games. It's the 3rd party support you have to pay for, to keep people happy. You know why companies don't like to pay for 3rd party support? It's not profiable. They don't keep the major profits from 3rd party games like they do from 1st party games. That is a major reason Sony has moved to 1st party games for exclusives, this gen. Direct return on investment.

Paying for XIII or Tekken gives little or no direct return on investment.

Stop demonizing Microsoft for trying to be competitive with Sony.

A. They might not have done anything.

B. Even if they did, it's only so they can eventually make Xbox the brandleader for home consoles.

It's called competition. If it makes Sony respond with a new 1st party game, or a price cut, or if it hurts Sony's business, so they know they need to respond next time, or spend money on 3rd party games, it's better for us gamers.

One company giving its customers what they want will either make competition do they same, or drive them out of business. That's a good thing. That's why monopolies suck. If Microsoft does something great, Sony will have to respond, and we all win. Just because this turn wasn't the best news for Sony doesn't mean it won't result in good news for Sony down the road. Competition is a viscious circle, with the end result of us, you and me, getting better goods and services from Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.

Sony has money. They just don't want to spend it on you any more than they have to. If Microsoft makes them, then great. Sure, Microsoft has an unfair amount of money, but it's not about fair. It's about business.

Let's start worrying about "how" a company is treating us, and not "why." Then, we'll be free, and we won't have to justify our companys actions, like we are a beaten wife trying to explain to the police that it wasn't her husband's fault he hit her, he just had a long day.

If you don't like the way Sony is handling 3rd party support, the 360/PC/Wii are all pretty cheap. Let's not demonize other companies, for our own consoles failings.

 Please. Last gen Sony survived off of 3rd party titles. The other titles were popular but didn't come as close. Sony didn't stop Nintendo into the ground only with it's own games. Think of all the freaking great titles on Sony that stood in the shadow of the commercialism of 3rd party titles on the Playstation 1 and 2. I loved both system and even I know that. I have a great library of PS1 and PS2 games as well.

Top selling Sony titles ever:

1.Grand Theft Auto series-Multiplat between GBC/PS1/PC....(The game was never exclusive to Sony until PS2)

2. Final Fantasy main series-Nintendo and then went to Sony. Nintendo got the left over shit.

3. Metal Gear Solid series-Started off on Nintendo and went to Sony

Alot of people gave Sony alot of credit for Tomb Raider, but it was multiplat. Crash Bandicoot was a great platformer for the Playstation that raked in the cash for Sony when Spyro and Tomba couldn't and Sony dropped the ball with it.

The only top selling Sony game that sold more than the 3rd party was Gran Turismo. PERIOD.

For your information Mass Effect is multiplat and you don't hear MS fanboys bitching about it do you? No. Why? Because Sony fanboys are loyal to a machine to the end. The exclusives that Microsoft managed to gather from Sony realized the profits they could make by being multiplat. Microsoft has a much more active installed base still. Soul Calibur IV on 360 outsold the PS3 version because of that installed base. Alot of people who own PS3's and Xbox 360's actually have a large base from owning PS2's. Obviously that you can see that alot of gamers fled to the 360. I did it, but I'm still buying a PS3 with Tekken 6 and Soul Calibur IV. I just so happen to believe that fighting games play better with a Playstation controller and that is that. I have the choice because I will be able to logically choose the strengths of both systems. I have no attachment to PS3 nor the 360. Come on man, you're better than this. I have great respect that you are making games, but if you're going to make games, you have to understand the nature of business. Sony and Microsoft are cut throat corporate giants. Don't ever let down your guard on either of them. Explain something to me and this I really want to know. If Microsoft was shelling out all their money to get 3rd party games, then why did they have such a powerful system last games and all of the interesting games were 1st and 2nd party and the rest sucked? Where were all of the 3rd party games that they were supposed to shell out money for man?

Corporate attributes:

-Microsoft:Cut throat and has monopolistic tendencies. Currently hiding their cockiness behind a humble coat until they destroy Sony. Will fire developers but procure IP's. Before videogames they worked on OS and programs compatible and hardware while monopolizing that market.

-Sony:Cut throat, extremely cocky and blind & proud. Has a lack of consideration for investments unless they are top sellers (Hence why they mainly showed off 3rd party games rather than 1st party in the gens before). Has not had the power ever to monopolize anything although they aspire to (Hence why they bought Columbia Pictures). They've successfuly become a conglomerate.

Come on man. They are both a very similar beast.

YES THEY DID!!! THEY PAID ROCKSTAR TO KEEP THE GTA III SERIES EXCLUSIVE TO THE PS2 FOR FOUR YEARS!!! YOU GIVE SO MUCH CREDIT TO SONY WHEN THEY PAY FOR EXCLUSIVITY AS WELL. SONY IS JUST AS CUT THROAT AS MICROSOFT AND YOU KNOW IT!! STOP BEING IN DENAIL!! THE ORIGINAL XBOX WAS AN AMAZING PIECE OF HARDWARE BUT THE GAMES WERE MOSTLY SHIT! THE PS3 IS AN AMAZING PIECE OF HARDWARE BUT I BET YOU WERE DOWNPLAYING THE POWER OF A SYSTEM LAST GEN WHEN THE XBOX OBVIOUSLY HAD THE PS2 BEAT IN THAT DEPARTMENT (NOT THAT IT MATTERED ANYWAY).

No need to send it back to me Smeags. U'r clearly in control here.