i agree cuz in asia games are soooooo overpriced so people rarely but them and they buy pirated games. Most of the people in asia buy pirated games. If they are no pirated games for a console,most of the people wont buy the console.

Piracy would not be an issue if greedy corporations did not over charge consumers. People who tend to pirate software are those who can not afford to pay ridiculously high prices.

If rental copies cost the same as retail copies you'd be right, but they don't.

See, the game makers actually understand this point that you make. If you look at the license that comes with your retail copies of games, you'll see that you're not allowed to rent those out precisely because of what you are saying. Gamefly and Blockbuster and similar outlets pay extra for that privilege, and they pay quite a lot extra. Enough, in fact, to more or less offset the losses the game developer would take due to reduced sales.

So what? Nobody has an inborn right to play video games, and no one ever died or even suffered any harm from not playing. Video games are not a necessity of life, and so there is no justification for stealing them. You are not Jean Valjean.

Maybe if they want to survive as an industry they will pull a nintendo and drastically reduce the barriers to consumption of thier product(namely price now that the big N has fixed accessibility and education requirements for consumers).

I didn't say it was ethical, that's your issue.  Abortions are murder(I'm pro-choice btw) and murder is not ethical but that doesn't stop people from doing it now does it. Different people have different standards of ethics.

No but if i bought one lawn mower and let the everybody rent it that would "hurt" the future sales of the creator of the lawn mower. Why pay full price for something when you can just rent it as needed.  Or say i decided to let everyone use it for free still the same issue for the creators of the lawn mower.

I did not realise that they payed more for thier games. thank you very much for pointing out the flaw in my logic.

However, despite people stealing many companies manage to make a profit.  Pirates will steal no matter what.  They operate with a different ethical system.  Given that most companies can create a product that manages to appeal to enough people that don't says to me that they are overshooting the value of the product that they are selling.  

Nintendo makes tons of money despite pirates.  Find your market, don't complain about overshooting the current one. Make different software or sell it at a different price, or both.

The bolded parts are flat-out lies. The Wii was hacked right around launch and modchips are widely available. DS games are very easy to pirate. The cards themselves can be used by basically anyone, and depending on where you live, you can buy them locally. Even if not there are multiple reliable websites in canada I could buy from and have a card by next week.

It took a few years for there to be a no-swap modchip for the ps2 (to play copied dvd and cd games) and it was an insanely hard install. Compare this to the first modchip available for the wii which was available shortly after launch had about 6 solder points and was absurdly easy to install. The newer Wii's are somewhat harder but still easy as pie compared to the 20+ wire installs needed for self-booting copied games in the midst of the ps2's life

 I don't pirate games or anything else, but that various industry lobby groups have, through their long running PR campaigns, convinced a sizable portion of the public that piracy is stealing pisses me off. Piracy is not stealing. Stealing/theft involves taking property from its rightful owner. Piracy is copyright infringement. Copyright infringement involves not paying royalties due for utilizing a protected IP.

In all but the smallest cases theft is a criminal matter that carries the threat of jail time. In all but the largest cases copyright infringement is a civil matter.

Perhaps but the HW would have to be extremely profitable right???

Either way, no matter what I see piracy as bad.

Yes, you are being just delusional...

Piracy only hurts devs...