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shio said:
blackstar said:
pc gaming sucks
i have to spend $$$$$$$$$$ to get a decent pc that can play games

You think $500 is too expensive??

 

 

 500$????????????????

where do u live??



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Consoles are good for people who're too casual to learn how to play on the PC. =P

Seriously though, he has some valid points, but it looks kinda like he's completely missed the last few years. The current generation offers a remedy for the increased development costs (Wii), and lack of smaller cheap games (download services on all three).



blackstar said:
shio said:
blackstar said:
pc gaming sucks
i have to spend $$$$$$$$$$ to get a decent pc that can play games

You think $500 is too expensive??

 

 

 500$????????????????

where do u live??

 

he really isnt kidding, for main hardware thats all you really need to spend unless you want to run Crysis on high or in DX10 very high mode then its between $750 - $850.



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Yeah, but how long will that $500 computer last? I'm not trying to get into a console vs. PC argument, I just hate it when people start throwing prices out there but then don't tell you how long that computer will be current.

I had a $3000+ laptop that was just over 3 years old and it can't play anything that's coming out now. True laptops are more expensive but that doesn't change the fact it was an incredible laptop. I would often have the laptop running at 1900x1200, another monitor running at 1680x1050, Photoshop CS2 running with very large files open, 3DSMax open, whatever editor I happened to be working in (and when I was working in Source I usually had FacePoser open too), iTunes open, and Outlook open with everything running very smooth.

If I tried to run any current games like Gears or whatever it just couldn't run that and the few games I could run I had to run everything at very low settings.

So yeah, my 3 year old kickass laptop is nearly obsolete today. What makes me think a $500 PC would run anything in 3 years?



ssj12 said:
blackstar said:
shio said:
blackstar said:
pc gaming sucks
i have to spend $$$$$$$$$$ to get a decent pc that can play games

You think $500 is too expensive??

 

 

 500$????????????????

where do u live??

 

he really isnt kidding, for main hardware thats all you really need to spend unless you want to run Crysis on high or in DX10 very high mode then its between $750 - $850.

and i wasn't kidding too :D

i need 1000$ to get a good one here,,,, and this:

 "So yeah, my 3 year old kickass laptop is nearly obsolete today. What makes me think a $500 PC would run anything in 3 years?"

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ssj12 said:
blackstar said:
shio said:
blackstar said:
pc gaming sucks
i have to spend $$$$$$$$$$ to get a decent pc that can play games

You think $500 is too expensive??

 

 

 500$????????????????

where do u live??

 

he really isnt kidding, for main hardware thats all you really need to spend unless you want to run Crysis on high or in DX10 very high mode then its between $750 - $850.

$850 - That gives you Vista 64, 500gb HDD, 4gb Ram, 3ghz Core 2 Duo, Radeon 4850, and high quality Case/Motherboard.

$600 for the above specs with a 9600gt and an Athlon X2 2.8ghz.

$500 for the above specs with a 320gb HDD, Average Case/PSU combo/2gb ram.

$400 for the above specs with a 250gb HDD, Athlon X2 2.2ghz, Radeon 4650 (Aprox)

 



Tease.

Somebody better tell him that like it or not:

1) Consoles are a better and more convenient gaming option for most consumers.
2) PC gamers who are willing to spend the money on a gaming rig know how to pirate games.



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twesterm said:
Yeah, but how long will that $500 computer last? I'm not trying to get into a console vs. PC argument, I just hate it when people start throwing prices out there but then don't tell you how long that computer will be current.

I had a $3000 laptop that was just over 3 years old and it can't play anything that's coming out now. True laptops are more expensive but that doesn't change the fact it was an incredible laptop. I would often have the laptop running at 1900x1200, another monitor running at 1680x1050, Photoshop CS2 running with very large files open, 3DSMax open, whatever editor I happened to be working in (and when I was working in Source I usually had FacePoser open too), iTunes open, and Outlook open with everything running very smooth.

If I tried to run any current games like Gears or whatever it just couldn't run that and the few games I could run I had to run everything at very low settings.

So yeah, my 3 year old kickass laptop is nearly obsolete today. What makes me think a $500 PC would run anything in 3 years?

 

 

Because the consoles are so powerful in the software market, The specs for most games are not likely to increase much over the next 4-5 years. A more powerful PC can play them faster with higher resolutions but the demands aren't likely to change much in that time.



Tease.

akuma587 said:
Somebody better tell him that like it or not:

1) Consoles are a better and more convenient gaming option for most consumers.
2) PC gamers who are willing to spend the money on a gaming rig know how to pirate games.

1. True.

2. (Bolded) Absolutely true, 5 copies of Crysis for every 1 bought. Everyone says that they buy their games for the PC, how many actually do? Especially since I saw data that showed the piracy rate for Crysis was much higher in the U.S than in the U.K.

 



Tease.

Squilliam said:
twesterm said:
Yeah, but how long will that $500 computer last? I'm not trying to get into a console vs. PC argument, I just hate it when people start throwing prices out there but then don't tell you how long that computer will be current.

I had a $3000 laptop that was just over 3 years old and it can't play anything that's coming out now. True laptops are more expensive but that doesn't change the fact it was an incredible laptop. I would often have the laptop running at 1900x1200, another monitor running at 1680x1050, Photoshop CS2 running with very large files open, 3DSMax open, whatever editor I happened to be working in (and when I was working in Source I usually had FacePoser open too), iTunes open, and Outlook open with everything running very smooth.

If I tried to run any current games like Gears or whatever it just couldn't run that and the few games I could run I had to run everything at very low settings.

So yeah, my 3 year old kickass laptop is nearly obsolete today. What makes me think a $500 PC would run anything in 3 years?

 

 

Because the consoles are so powerful in the software market, The specs for most games are not likely to increase much over the next 4-5 years. A more powerful PC can play them faster with higher resolutions but the demands aren't likely to change much in that time.

So if they don't change that much for 4-5 years, again, why would my 3 year old kickass laptop be nearly obsolete?

I remember even Oblivion even pushing it pretty hard and Neverwinter Nights 2 pushed it *really* hard so that I had to have settings turned down and even had to read tweak guides just to get them to run well.

-edit-

And before you point out I know nothing about gaming PC's or laptops (because I don't) it wasn't me that picked it out, it was the school I went to that picked them out.  Part of your tuition is devoted towards buying about the best possible laptop at the time of enrolling and each term you pay off a little more. 

And I only guess at the $3000 mark, they told us the cost once but that was 3 years ago and I only remember it was really high and that number included the software so I also take down the number (the number was originially over $4000, I do remember that).