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Naum on 06 September 2008

Ill stick with consoles for the time being, since theonly game I can play on PC is games like starcraft and dialbo and MMO's. the rest belong on ly 116'' screen..



If it isn't turnbased it isn't worth playing   (mostly)

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flagship on 06 September 2008

Or you could get a premium 360 with 3 games for $500. The real problem with the gaming PC is in 3 years you won't be able to play high end games without at least upgrading the graphics card while the 360 will still play the latest release just fine. High end PC gaming is an expensive hobby.



IllegalPaladin on 06 September 2008

@JaggedSac

or you can just go here



JaggedSac on 06 September 2008
IllegalPaladin said:

@JaggedSac

or you can just go here

 

LOL.  Thanks.  But it does look like my estimate is dead on.

80,164 80,284   Counter-Strike: Source
  65,251 65,251   Counter-Strike
  18,496 18,496   Team Fortress 2
  11,833 12,248   Condition Zero
  6,549 6,878   Day of Defeat: Source
  5,415 5,417   Garry's Mod
  2,856 2,856   Half-Life 2
  2,645 2,697   Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
  2,238 2,320   Day of Defeat
  1,389 1,399   TrackMania Nations Forever
  1,112 1,112   Portal
  1,067 1,076   Half-Life 2: Episode Two
  875 943   Red Orchestra
  796 801   Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
  762 773   Half-Life 2: Episode One
  462 495   GTR Evolution
  405 439   Half-Life
  404 425   Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
  377 401   Team Fortress Classic
  370 398   Condition Zero Deleted Scenes
  351 355   Audiosurf
  249 255   X-Com: UFO Defense
  223 224   Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword
  221 232   Dark Messiah Might and Magic Single Player
  212 230   EVE Online
  204 205   STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
  185 199   Company of Heroes
  179 203   Peggle Deluxe
  175 209   Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
  166 166   Bioshock
  160 161   Peggle Extreme
  160 160   EVE Online Demo
  146 149   Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
  142 151   RACE 07
  134 148   Opposing Force
  127 151   Half-Life 2: Lost Coast
  117 117   Half-Life: Source
  111 114   Sid Meier's Civilization IV
  109 139   TrackMania United Forever
  109 125   Dark Messiah Might and Magic Multi-Player
  97 103   Dawn of War: Dark Crusade
  93 94   Dawn of War: Soulstorm
  89 98   Doom 3
  88 93   Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
  86 86   X-Com: Apocalypse
  82 95   Half-Life 2: Demo
  68 104   GRID
  67 73   Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
  64 70   FarCry
  60 60   Company of Heroes Singleplayer Demo
  59 114   FlatOut2
  56 67   X3: Reunion
  55 58   Return to Castle Wolfenstein
  52 65   Half-Life: Blue Shift
  52 62   Half-Life Deathmatch: Source
  51 57   Titan Quest
  49 53   The Ship
  49 49   Medieval II: Total War
  48 58   Rome: Total War Gold
  46 46   Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus
  44 55   Deathmatch Classic
  44 49   Quake 3 Arena
  44 44   Zuma Deluxe
  43 51   Call of Duty 2
  42 48   Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
  40 67   Portal: The First Slice
  40 47   FlatOut Ultimate Carnage
  39 48   Audiosurf Demo
  38 54   Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars Demo 2.0
  37 41   Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
  37 38   Sacred Gold
  34 36   Race - The WTCC Game
  33 36   Puzzle Quest
  33 34   Dawn of War Gold
  33 33   SiN Episodes: Emergence
  32 38   Quake
  30 37   Medieval II: Total War Kingdoms
  30 36   Space Empires V
  29 38   Peggle Deluxe Demo
  28 43   Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars
  28 35   RACE 07 Demo
  28 29   Dawn of War Demo
  28 28   Hitman: Blood Money
  26 34   X-COM: Terror from the Deep
  25 38   FlatOut Demo
  25 34   Unreal Tournament 2004
  24 39   Unreal Tournament 3
  24 26   Spellforce 2 Shadow Wars
  24 24   The Longest Journey
  22 31   Rainbow Six Vegas 2
  22 26   The Ship Single Player
  22 26   Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
  20 37   Ricochet
  20 28   Quake 2
  20 23   Two Worlds
  20 23   Counter-Strike Steamworks Beta
  20 20   X-Com: Interceptor
  19 36   X-Com: Enforcer
  19 24   Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition
  18 24   Assassin's Creed
  18 21   Call of Duty
  17 22   Crazy Machines 2
  17 19   Tank Universal
  16 20   Beyond Good and Evil
  16 16   Hexen 2
  15 31   Bejeweled 2 Deluxe
  15 21   Defcon
  15 20   Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Warlords
  15 20   Attack on Pearl Harbor Demo
  15 17   Football Manager 2008
  15 15   Making History: The Calm and The Storm
  14 21   Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee Demo
  14 20   Children of the Nile
  14 19   Frontlines: Fuel of War
  14 19   Just Cause Demo
  14 18   Spellforce 2 Dragon Storm
  14 16   Dawn of War Winter Assault Demo
  14 14   Grand Theft Auto 3
  13 27   Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus Demo
  13 25   Savage 2: A Tortured Soul
  13 18   7 Wonders 2
  13 17   Heroes of Might and Magic 5
  13 17   The Movies: Stunts and Effects
  13 15   Bookworm Adventures Deluxe
  13 14   The Movies Demo
  13 13   DarkStar One
  12 22   Dark Messiah Singleplayer Demo
  12 18   Dawn of War: Soulstorm Demo
  12 18   Trials 2: Second Edition
  12 16   Hitman: Blood Money Demo
  12 16   Geometry Wars
  12 16   Darwinia
  12 15   Heroes of Annihilated Empires Multiplayer Demo
  12 12   Insaniquarium Deluxe
  11 19   Defcon Demo
  11 14   Railroad Tycoon 3
  11 13   Just Cause
  11 13   Prey
  11 12   Conflict: Denied Ops Demo
  11 12   Medieval II: Total War Demo
  10 26   Painkiller Gold Edition
  10 17   IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946
  10 16   Uplink
  10 15   Sid Meier's Pirates!
  10 14   FlatOut
  10 13   X2: The Threat
  10 13   Worldwide Soccer Manager 2008
  10 13   UFO: Afterlight
  10 12   Disciples II Rise of the Elves
  10 11   Virtual Villagers 3: The Secret City
  9 19   Chuzzle Deluxe
  9 17   Dawn of War Gold: Winter Assault
  9 16   Overlord
  9 15   Tomb Raider: Anniversary
  9 15   Max Payne
  9 14   Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
  9 11   Jagged Alliance 2 Gold
  9 10   Space Siege
  9 10   Space Empires IV Deluxe
  9 10   Battlestations: Midway Multiplayer Demo
  9 10   Silverfall: Earth Awakening
  9 9   Dracula: Origin Demo
  8 18   Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness, Episode One
  8 13   Elf Bowling: Hawaiian Vacation Demo
  8 13   Out of the Park Baseball 9
  8 10   SiN 1
  8 10   Silverfall Demo
  8 9   Top Spin 2
  8 8   Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
  8 8   Luxor AR
  8 8   Attack on Pearl Harbor
  7 14   Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 Platinum
  7 13   Psychonauts
  7 12   Stronghold Crusader Extreme
  7 11   Silverfall
  7 11   Sid Meier's Railroads Demo
  7 10   SiN Episodes: Emergence
  7 8   Zen of Sudoku
  7 8   City Life Deluxe
  7 7   Arx Fatalis
  6 16   Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
  6 15   Sam and Max 104: Abe Lincoln Must Die
  6 15   Plant Tycoon
  6 13   The Movies
  6 12   Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
  6 12   Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
  6 11   Pacific Storm: Allies
  6 10   BookWorm Deluxe
  6 10   Stubbs The Zombie Demo
  6 10   Disciples II Galleans Return
  6 9   Luxor 3
  6 9   Speedball 2 - Tournament
  6 9   Call of Juarez
  6 9   Amazing Adventures: The Lost Tomb
  6 8   Alien Shooter: Vengeance
  6 8   Overlord Demo
  6 8   Dynomite Deluxe
  6 7   Hitman 2: Silent Assassin
  6 7   BloodRayne 2 Demo
  6 7   Lumines
  6 6   Quake II Demo
  5 23   Tank Universal Demo
  5 16   Alpha Prime Demo
  5 15   Silent Hunter III
  5 15   Quake 3 Arena Demo
  5 12   Sid Meier's Railroads
  5 11   Trials 2: Second Edition Demo
  5 10   Sid Meier's Civilization III: Complete
  5 10   Plant Tycoon Demo
  5 10   Call of Duty: United Offensive
  5 10   GTI Racing
  5 9   Ricochet: Lost Worlds
  5 9   Tomb Raider: Anniversary Demo
  5 8   Arx Fatalis Demo
  5 8   Luxor 2
  5 8   Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword - Final Frontier Demo
  5 5   Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
  4 14   Alpha Prime
  4 12   Thief: Deadly Shadows
  4 12   Titan Quest Demo
  4 11   Painkiller Demo
  4 10   SpaceForce: Rogue Universe
  4 9   Making History: The Calm and The Storm Demo
  4 9   Elf Bowling: Hawaiian Vacation
  4 9   Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific U-Boat Missions
  4 8   Big Money Deluxe
  4 8   The Wonderful End of the World Demo
  4 8   Battlestations: Midway
  4 8   Clive Barker's Jericho Demo
  4 8   Xpand Rally
  4 7   Kane and Lynch: Dead Men
  4 7   Ghost Master
  4 7   Infernal Demo
  4 6   Lumines Demo
  4 6   Everyday Shooter
  4 6   Ninja Reflex: Steamworks Edition
  4 6   Shadowgrounds Survivor
  4 6   Deus Ex: Invisible War
  4 5   Clive Barker's Jericho
  4 5   Jade Empire
  4 5   Nexus - The Jupiter Incident
  4 5   The Settlers - Heritage of Kings
  4 4   Bookworm Adventures Deluxe Demo
  4 4   Luxor 3 Demo
  3 10   Feeding Frenzy 2 Deluxe
  3 10   Fish Tycoon
  3 9   Little Farm
  3 9   Fish Tycoon Demo
  3 9   Unreal Tournament
  3 8   Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific
  3 8   Little Farm Demo
  3 7   Soldier of Fortune: Payback
  3 7   Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition
  3 7   Quake 3 Team Arena Demo
  3 7   Full Pipe Demo
  3 6   Loki
  3 6   18 Wheels of Steel: American Long Haul
  3 6   Jack Keane
  3 6   Tomb Raider: Legend
  3 5   The Settlers - Rise of an Empire
  3 5   Championship Manager 2008
  3 4   Runaway, A Road Adventure
  3 4   The Incredible Hulk: The Official Videogame
  3 4   Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition
  3 4   Poker Superstars II
  3 4   Mystery P.I. - The Vegas Heist
  3 3   Cabela's Trophy Bucks
  3 3   GUN
  3 3   Eternity's Child
  3 3   CivCity: Rome
  3 3   Baseball Mogul 2008
  2 9   Empires: Dawn of the Modern World
  2 8   Discovery! A Seek and Find Adventure Demo
  2 8   The Wonderful End of the World
  2 8   Shadowgrounds
  2 8   BloodRayne 2
  2 7   Splinter Cell
  2 7   Bejeweled Deluxe
  2 6   AstroPop Deluxe
  2 6   Sam and Max 201: Ice Station Santa
  2 6   Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness, Episode One Demo
  2 5   Joint Task Force Demo
  2 5   Ninja Reflex: Steamworks Edition Demo
  2 5   Gish
  2 5   Eets
  2 5   The Office Demo
  2 4   Amazing Adventures: The Lost Tomb Demo
  2 4   Sam and Max 205: What's New Beelzebub
  2 4   Sam and Max 202: Moai Better Blues
  2 4   RoboBlitz Demo
  2 4   The Ship Tutorial
  2 4   Conflict: Denied Ops
  2 4   Full Spectrum Warrior
  2 4   Loki Norse Demo
  2 4   Infernal
  2 4   Virtual Villagers: A New Home Demo
  2 4   Luxor
  2 4   Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights
  2 3   AstroPop Deluxe Demo
  2 3   Culpa Innata
  2 3   Poker Superstars II Demo
  2 3   Reaxxion Demo
  2 3   Midnight Club 2
  2 2   Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines
  2 2   Talismania Deluxe Demo
  2 2   RIP 3 - The Last Hero
  2 2   Hammer Heads Deluxe Demo
  2 2   Rainbow Six Lockdown
  2 2   Zen of Sudoku Demo
  2 2   Call of Juarez - DirectX 10
  1 11   Tomb Raider: Legend Demo
  1 9   ArmA: Armed Assault
  1 9   7 Wonders 2 Demo
  1 9   Indigo Prophecy
  1 9   ThreadSpace: Hyperbol
  1 8   Painkiller Overdose
  1 8   Universe at War: Earth Assault
  1 7   Bejeweled 2 Deluxe Demo
  1 7   Ghost Recon
  1 7   Eternity's Child Demo
  1 6   Talismania Deluxe
  1 6   Manhunt
  1 6   Mystery P.I. - The Lottery Ticket
  1 6   Advent Rising
  1 6   Fleet Command
  1 6   Dracula: Origin
  1 6   Stubbs the Zombie
  1 5   Rag Doll Kung Fu
  1 5   Reaxxion
  1 5   Project: Snowblind Demo
  1 5   Lumines Advanced Pack
  1 5   Insaniquarium Deluxe Demo
  1 5   Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis Demo
  1 5   Heroes of Annihilated Empires
  1 5   Commandos 2: Men of Courage
  1 5   Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars Demo
  1 5   Quake Mission Pack 1: Scourge of Armagon
  1 5   Venice
  1 5   Psychonauts Demo
  1 5   Rogue Trooper
  1 5   Global Agenda Alpha
  1 5   Typer Shark Deluxe
  1 4   Ducati World Championship
  1 4   Runaway, The Dream of the Turtle Demo
  1 4   Sam and Max 101: Culture Shock
  1 4   Beijing Olympics 2008
  1 4   Hexen II Demo
  1 4   BloodRayne
  1 4   Unreal Gold
  1 4   Pizza Frenzy
  1 4   Sam and Max 105: Reality 2.0
  1 3   Loki Egyptian Demo
  1 3   Shadowgrounds Demo
  1 3   Chuzzle Deluxe Demo
  1 3   Chaos Theory Demo
  1 3   City Life
  1 3   Rome: Total War Alexander
  1 3   Luxor 2 Demo
  1 3   The Office
  1 3   Bullet Candy
  1 3   Vigil - Blood Bitterness Demo
  1 3   Grand Theft Auto
  1 3   Vegas - Make It Big
  1 3   Wik and the Fable of Souls Demo
  1 3   S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
  1 3   Heavy Weapon Deluxe Demo
  1 3   Sam and Max 106: Bright Side of the Moon
  1 3   Blazing Angels 2 Secret Missions of WWII
  1 3   Age of Conan - Hyborian Adventures
  1 2   Typer Shark Deluxe Demo
  1 2   Futbol Manager 2008
  1 2   Safecracker: The Ultimate Puzzle Adventure
  1 2   Shattered Suns
  1 2   Bejeweled Deluxe Demo
  1 2   BookWorm Deluxe Demo
  1 2   Planet Busters
  1 2   Eets Demo
  1 2   Rainbow Six Vegas
  1 2   Birth Of America
  1 2   Dynomite Deluxe Demo
  1 2   Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened
  1 2   Gumboy Tournament
  1 1   Petz Horsez 2
  0 6   Rag Doll Kung Fu Demo
  0 6   Heavy Weapon Deluxe
  0 6   Virtual Villagers 2: The Lost Children
  0 5   Prison Tycoon 3: Lockdown
  0 5   Unreal II: The Awakening
  0 5   Pro Cycling Manager Season 2008
  0 5   RIP 3 - The Last Hero Demo
  0 4   Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis
  0 4   Pizza Frenzy Demo
  0 4   Big Money Deluxe Demo
  0 4   Dangerous Waters
  0 4   Hunting Unlimited 2008
  0 4   Shadowgrounds Survivor Demo
  0 4   The Longest Journey Demo
  0 4   Gish Demo
  0 4   Rocket Mania Deluxe
  0 4   Quake Mission Pack 2: Dissolution of Eternity
  0 3   ThreadSpace: Hyperbol Demo
  0 3   Feeding Frenzy 2 Deluxe Demo
  0 2   Grand Theft Auto 2
  0 2   Bioshock Demo
  0 2   Commandos 3: Destination Berlin
  0 1   Dr. Daisy
  0 1   Race Caterham
  0 1   Iron Man



shio on 06 September 2008

Maybe he means that 15-20 millions people still play the Counter-Strike games (maybe in a 30-day period), which would make much more sense and not impossible.



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vlad321 on 06 September 2008

@forevercloud
I'm pretty sure people have burned you enough for your ignorance but I feel like I should too. PS3 plays PC games? Honestly? I don't think I could have sounded more uninformed even if I went to the PS3 forum and said that my Wii games look better than all PS3 games.


@the numbers and stuff people are citing

Remember that the PC has a huge amount of online games, not just 2 or 3 like WoW and CS and stuff. WoW has sold only about 11-12 million right now and not everyone gets on in one day to play it. Doubt CS is any different. But if you add these games to all the other ones, well then, we get a pretty big number of players actually playing online.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

JaggedSac on 06 September 2008

vlad321 said:
@forevercloud
I'm pretty sure people have burned you enough for your ignorance but I feel like I should too. PS3 plays PC games? Honestly? I don't think I could have sounded more uninformed even if I went to the PS3 forum and said that my Wii games look better than all PS3 games.


@the numbers and stuff people are citing

Remember that the PC has a huge amount of online games, not just 2 or 3 like WoW and CS and stuff. WoW has sold only about 11-12 million right now and not everyone gets on in one day to play it. Doubt CS is any different. But if you add these games to all the other ones, well then, we get a pretty big number of players actually playing online.

 

I understand that.  I was merely pointing out someone's obviously wrong statement with numbers. 



vlad321 on 06 September 2008

^ Ah ok cool. I don't want the PC gamers to fall to the same foolishness that console gamers fall into when they try and deride the PC. Point is there is an outstanding number of PC gamers.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

JaggedSac on 06 September 2008

vlad321 said:
^ Ah ok cool. I don't want the PC gamers to fall to the same foolishness that console gamers fall into when they try and deride the PC. Point is there is an outstanding number of PC gamers.

I know, I have owned quite a few of the games on that list I posted.  Wierd that they have servers for those things on Steam.  Vampire: The Masquerade?!?!  I would not recommend that to anyone.



vlad321 on 06 September 2008

^ I was more surprised at Bloodrayne 2 being on there.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835