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windbane said:

ahhh, johnlucas.  I have missed you.  You make the least sense of anyone on the forum!

"THE SURE 

Wii will catch the worldwide sales of XBox 360 within the month of July (July 1 to July 31)

and THE LONGSHOT

Wii will catch the American continents sales (North and South America) of XBox 360 within the summer (ending officially September 22) preferrably within the month of July (July 1 to July 31)"

Both wrong, the Wii can not make up over 1 million in a month, and it needs to make up 1.28.   In the US, the Wii is halfway to the 360 numbers but with less than 3 months to go it's not going to be close to happening.

At least we'll know you are wrong on those soon.  The rest of your wrong predictions will be proven in time.

 


Do you realize how close he will be given when his prediction was made?

It is likely that if Nintendo increased production by 500,000 units per month in March they would have easily passed the XBox 360 in July ... As it stands now they will probably pass the 360 in late August



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>>Please. No way has it been decided. No one knows how this new gamer demographic Nintendo is creating is going to turn out; how big it will become and how many games they will buy. No one knows how well the PS3 will sell once it's $400 and has MGS4 and FFXIII. No one knows if the 360 can finally start attracting some casual gamers down the road like the original X-Box failed miserably at. Probably in Japan the Wii>PS3>360 order has been set in stone, okay, but even then we don't know exactly what kind of ratio it will end as. Making predictions is one thing. Being arrogent and thinking you have the crystal ball that tells how it all comes out it quite something else.<<

$400 is historically too high a price for a console.  Nothing has happened so far to suggest this has changed as of late.  Ever think about the chicken<->egg scenario games like MGS4 and FFXIII represent?  They sell well within a large established market.  What happens when the market isn't established (as with this $400+ console)?  I certainly don't know, but DQ9 going to the DS makes me wonder...

The Wii has the casual game market locked.  It's as simple as that:  easy (and unique control), lower price point, great branding.  MS nor SONY will touch the casual game market.  The Wii-mote has POPCAP! written all over it!

 

 



HappySqurriel said:
windbane said:

ahhh, johnlucas. I have missed you. You make the least sense of anyone on the forum!

"THE SURE

Wii will catch the worldwide sales of XBox 360 within the month of July (July 1 to July 31)

and THE LONGSHOT

Wii will catch the American continents sales (North and South America) of XBox 360 within the summer (ending officially September 22) preferrably within the month of July (July 1 to July 31)"

Both wrong, the Wii can not make up over 1 million in a month, and it needs to make up 1.28. In the US, the Wii is halfway to the 360 numbers but with less than 3 months to go it's not going to be close to happening.

At least we'll know you are wrong on those soon. The rest of your wrong predictions will be proven in time.

 


Do you realize how close he will be given when his prediction was made?

It is likely that if Nintendo increased production by 500,000 units per month in March they would have easily passed the XBox 360 in July ... As it stands now they will probably pass the 360 in late August


Close is not sure.



The Wii won't see a decrease in sales as the holiday season comes. If you think the performance its doing is scary now I can't wait to see the looks on everyones faces when Oct/Nov/Dec hit.

It won't be soely Wii Sports carrying the system. It's going to be Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3 and a slew of 3rd party titles that are worth mentioning that will carry the Wii.

Once the Wii takes over x360 worldwide in userbase its never going to look back. Ever.



JavyOO7 said:
The Wii won't see a decrease in sales as the holiday season comes. If you think the performance its doing is scary now I can't wait to see the looks on everyones faces when Oct/Nov/Dec hit.

It won't be soely Wii Sports carrying the system. It's going to be Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3 and a slew of 3rd party titles that are worth mentioning that will carry the Wii.

Once the Wii takes over x360 worldwide in userbase its never going to look back. Ever.

It for sure won't see a decrease, but how will it increase? It's still selling out. You can't sell more than 100% of your product.

Unless nintendo doubles production or something.



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which console is the winner if for example
console A has sold 75 million
console B has sold 35 million

console A's attach rate is 4
console B's attach rate is 15

who is the winner in your mind?



goodridd said:
JavyOO7 said:
The Wii won't see a decrease in sales as the holiday season comes. If you think the performance its doing is scary now I can't wait to see the looks on everyones faces when Oct/Nov/Dec hit.

It won't be soely Wii Sports carrying the system. It's going to be Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3 and a slew of 3rd party titles that are worth mentioning that will carry the Wii.

Once the Wii takes over x360 worldwide in userbase its never going to look back. Ever.

It for sure won't see a decrease, but how will it increase? It's still selling out. You can't sell more than 100% of your product.

Unless nintendo doubles production or something.


The wii sales are alredy declining, http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&align=1&weekly=1



 

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leo-j said:
goodridd said:
JavyOO7 said:
The Wii won't see a decrease in sales as the holiday season comes. If you think the performance its doing is scary now I can't wait to see the looks on everyones faces when Oct/Nov/Dec hit.

It won't be soely Wii Sports carrying the system. It's going to be Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3 and a slew of 3rd party titles that are worth mentioning that will carry the Wii.

Once the Wii takes over x360 worldwide in userbase its never going to look back. Ever.

It for sure won't see a decrease, but how will it increase? It's still selling out. You can't sell more than 100% of your product.

Unless nintendo doubles production or something.


The wii sales are alredy declining, http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&align=1&weekly=1


 they actually look like they are increasing compared to 3 months ago..........



jstam said:
which console is the winner if for example
console A has sold 75 million
console B has sold 35 million

console A's attach rate is 4
console B's attach rate is 15

who is the winner in your mind?

That's a good question. There are too many factors to determine from a simple "Console A sold, with X attach rate" though. And also assuming you mean the winner is the company who earns the most money. But I've always wondered with Nintendo being so casual heavy, what is there attach rate going to be in the long run. However, they already make a profit on each piece of hardware. So they don't really have to sell as many games to make the same amount of money as another console maker. 



jstam said:
which console is the winner if for example
console A has sold 75 million
console B has sold 35 million

console A's attach rate is 4
console B's attach rate is 15

who is the winner in your mind?

   There is no "in your mind" The winner is the marketshare leader (highest installbase) and the one with the most software sold, which thusfar in gaming has always been, the marketleader. The attach rates dont mean anything in the end. If attach rates REALLY matter we would all be here praising the 360 for its job welldone thusfar in Japan since its attach rate THRASHES both the PS3 and Wii. Hell it almost has a higher attach rate than both of them combined.

 

Dont let the technical mumbo jumbo confuse you. The right answer is the simple answer. Who sells the most wins.