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Forums - Sales - Latin America: Mexico, Central America, & South America Sales Thread

TheSource said:

Those are impressive figures for PES in Latin America. Latin America, hell maybe just Brazil might actually be a bigger market for Konami / EA soccer (football) games than the USA is.


Source, do you know how many PS2 were sold in Brazil?

The piracy here is strong, but i think the hardware has massive numbers.

I live in the sixth biggest city in Brazil(almost 3 million people) and its realy hard to find somone less than 30 years that don't have a PS2.

I believe that more than 5 millions PS2 were sold only in Brazil, but this is just a guess.



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Supposedly there are over 8m gray-market PS2s in Brazil but except for Sony, it never really benefited any publisher due to the piracy - thats why I'm impressed with the Konami figure.



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TheSource said:

Supposedly there are over 8m gray-market PS2s in Brazil but except for Sony, it never really benefited any publisher due to the piracy - thats why I'm impressed with the Konami figure.



I would assume that the majority of the legitimate PES sales were on PS3 simply by virtue of the fact that it's the only console without piracy.



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Supposedly the absence of piracy hampers the PS3 base though - and PS2 just launched recently in Brazil 'officially' anyway.



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Videogames are classified as toys under Brazilian tax regulation. As console videogames are, with very few exceptions, imported, they are subjected to the 80% importation tax that was primarily developed as a barrier to Chinese cheap toys.

In the other hand, computers have more reasonable prices and I believe computer games are classified as software. No wonder, up to to a few years ago Brazilian videogame space was totally dominated by PCs whereas consoles were restricted to cheap last generation models to be sold to small kids.

The fact is most PC games are are released by about R$100 (US$ 56), when printed and packed here or R$130-150 (US$73-85), when imported. Console games varies from R$199 (US$112) to R$279 (US$157), most of them in the upper part of the scale. Unnecessary to say that videogames are too expensive, which may be one of the main causes why piracy is so high in Brazil.

Konami installed a branch here only a couple of years ago. It seems that they know their market and by releasing console games in the same price range of their computer counterparts, they may be dominant here very soon. It seems that Blizzard will do the same in Brazil with Starcraft II. I look forward to see the reaction.



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cool to see that became news: http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/80883/pes-2010-sold-600000-copies-in-growing-latin-america-sw-market/

if PES sold that much, I think that FIFA sold well, at least half of that too. considering that at least in internet what I see here is a big move of PES-players becoming FIFA players; but FIFA didn´t have the same price.... so, 90% must be imported.

the low price for PES10 helpel a lot. I know some people (me included) that didn´t buy it in shop.to or ebay as usual becase the price were good here (R$99).

I hope that this project can be aproved, this is year for elections here, so many projects are going to be voted and signed because politians want some votes from niche groups... fingers crossed! go to market and buy a game and not wait two-six weeks to arrive here importing it.



The problem with those countries is that many people live in horrible conditions... they cant even afford food wich is terrible... if Latin Americans had so much money as US and Canada than sales will be much bigger but as i said there prices are way too high to people that to buy food have already poor conditions... Sad but true.



wow... how much drama, it´s the tipical vision of some people from other countries that must live in a box and think that people in south america, africa and others places are all poor, doesn´t have acces to nothing besides.... I don´t know... a ball to play soccer.

the market for expensive things, luxuary goods here in Brazil is one of the biggest of the world. LED tvs, expensive cars, eletronics in general and things that are really far from the "food and other basic stuff".

yes, there´s poor people here, like there´s also in US for example. but nothing like some countries in africa where people don´t have access to purified water.



Reach said:

The problem with those countries is that many people live in horrible conditions... they cant even afford food wich is terrible... if Latin Americans had so much money as US and Canada than sales will be much bigger but as i said there prices are way too high to people that to buy food have already poor conditions... Sad but true.


Uhhhh...it isn't AS bad as you say...Latin America is at most very industrialized and there are 4 emrgent countries, most people live quite a good life there(maybe I'm wrong in the most, but, still)



Above: still the best game of the year.

Nowadays Brazil has the potential to became a game market as big as UK and Germany. 

 

It's a emergent economy, 85% of uban population, more celphones lines than people, the 6th in the world in Internet users.

 

We love american and japanease cutures. Hollywood movies and Animes have a great impact in our society.

 

The biggest issue is the tax overload, not only for video games. It's difficult to any "gringo" understand our tax policy. Video Games in Brazil are are taxed as nickel slot machines and gambling.