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ckmlb on 15 June 2007
Darc Requiem said:
johnsobas said:
Darc Requiem said:
I get the sentiment that FishyJoe is trying to convey though. A lot of these "hardcore" gamers are anything but. If you are afraid to try new experiences and play only popular mainstream titles you are not hardcore. It does not matter how much you spend on games and how many you buy. A hardcore gamer isn't concerned with whether a game is cool or not or whether they look ridiculous while playing a game. A hardcore gamer will give just about any game a try. They may not like the game, but they will find out about from their own experience. They won't be quick to turn their nose up new game types either.

since when is there a definition for hardcore gamer? I thought a hardcore gamer is someone who spends a lot of time playing video games.

So a person that plays WoW 8 hours a day and nothing else is a hardcore gamer?

 

That's a hardcore WoW player not a hardcore gamer. He is a hardcore video game player though. A hardcore gamer entails variety in gaming, interest in games in general, the industry and support for games that are underappreciated.

 



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Zyzomys on 15 June 2007
ChichiriMuyo said:

And I imagine if the PS3 gets a price cut this year, games like NGS are going to get a noticable boost from it.

The PS3 is already sold for $200 cheaper in Japan than in the US.   If the PS3 cannot sell for $400 in Japan, what is the magic price point that makes it attractive. 

While this is beyond the scope of this thread, if a $400 PS3 cannot do well in Japan, why is a price drop of between $100 to $200 expected to revive PS3 sales in the United States?



johnsobas on 15 June 2007
Darc Requiem said:
johnsobas said:
Darc Requiem said:
I get the sentiment that FishyJoe is trying to convey though. A lot of these "hardcore" gamers are anything but. If you are afraid to try new experiences and play only popular mainstream titles you are not hardcore. It does not matter how much you spend on games and how many you buy. A hardcore gamer isn't concerned with whether a game is cool or not or whether they look ridiculous while playing a game. A hardcore gamer will give just about any game a try. They may not like the game, but they will find out about from their own experience. They won't be quick to turn their nose up new game types either.

since when is there a definition for hardcore gamer? I thought a hardcore gamer is someone who spends a lot of time playing video games.

So a person that plays WoW 8 hours a day and nothing else is a hardcore gamer?

 


 yea basically.  Even though it is pathetic to play wow that much.



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FinalEvangelion on 15 June 2007
Zyzomys said:
ChichiriMuyo said:

And I imagine if the PS3 gets a price cut this year, games like NGS are going to get a noticable boost from it.

The PS3 is already sold for $200 cheaper in Japan than in the US. If the PS3 cannot sell for $400 in Japan, what is the magic price point that makes it attractive.

While this is beyond the scope of this thread, if a $400 PS3 cannot do well in Japan, why is a price drop of between $100 to $200 expected to revive PS3 sales in the United States?


 

The Economy is in a worse state in Japan than the US.  So the PS3 has the same "price feel" to the Japanese as to the US, even if the exchange rates work differently.

 

If you do the math, the PS3 is still selling at a higher per capita rate than the US.  Their population is 127m  (and declining) versus our 300m (and increasing).

 



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Bodhesatva on 15 June 2007

Eight hours of WoW a day? Pansies. All of them. I'm not playing WoW much anymore, but I've put that figure to shame for months on end.



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Zyzomys on 16 June 2007
FinalEvangelion said:
 

If you do the math, the PS3 is still selling at a higher per capita rate than the US. Their population is 127m (and declining) versus our 300m (and increasing).

 


Wow! Pricing based on population. That is very creative.

How would your numbers look if we use Canada. Smaller population than Japan (only 33 million) but is priced at $655US or $255 higher than in Japan. This is a much higher per capital rate than your Japanese example. How does this fit into your economic model? Please explain.



ckmlb on 16 June 2007
Bodhesatva said:
Eight hours of WoW a day? Pansies. All of them. I'm not playing WoW much anymore, but I've put that figure to shame for months on end.
I had like 150 days played by the time I quit that game, wayyy too much time spent on one fuckin game it's sickening.

 



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Bodhesatva on 16 June 2007
ckmlb said:
Bodhesatva said:
Eight hours of WoW a day? Pansies. All of them. I'm not playing WoW much anymore, but I've put that figure to shame for months on end.
I had like 150 days played by the time I quit that game, wayyy too much time spent on one fuckin game it's sickening.

 


I pick one game and stick with it.

Played Team Fortress Classic for 3 years. Turned "pro," by which I mean I got mousepads from Icemat to play. It just sounds cooler if I say I turned pro.

Played Unreal Tournament for 2 and a half years. Also turned pro, but made more money this time, with the exact same company. I'd say I've earned 2000 dollars or so playing UT in several incarnations.

Played WoW for two years.

I have played perhaps 3-4 other games in that 10 year span. At all. My total time playing games OTHER than those three during the last ten years probably totals to about 100 hours. Shadow of the Colossus, Starcraft... maybe two more, don't know. I played each of my main three games 8+ hours a day, easy, for months on end. I had 260+ days played in WoW when I quit. Yes, I am a loser.



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Zucas on 16 June 2007

Pretty good for a 360 game not good for a PS3 game.



ckmlb on 16 June 2007
Bodhesatva said:
ckmlb said:
Bodhesatva said:



 I played each of my main three games 8+ hours a day, easy, for months on end. I had 260+ days played in WoW when I quit. Yes, I am a loser.


 Well you beat me even which is pretty sick lol we both are not well. I knew there were people who've played more WoW hours (a lot more, people who are still playing now) but it's always nice to meet a former WoW addict lol.

When did you leave? I left around the time Naxx came out. 



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