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Stupidity.

Sega if smart will fire this idiot. They are going to have to make smart decisions not dumb ones to maintain status in this business. Employees like that hold you back. The REAL Sega recognizes the value of innovation and would be on Wii like white on rice.

It's laughable how many people still desperately hang on to this 'Wii Bubble' myth.

I love how The Source broke the issue down here on the "Wii Bubble"

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=3018&start=0#end

I just realized that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics will be huge this year! People leave that out of the big holiday games but that will be just as much a monster as Galaxy and Brawl I believe. 

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'But how much value can developers and creative folks get out of this wrist motion two years from now, or 5 years from now, or 10 years from now? How can they design products that aren't too derivative of what's already out there?'

I love this quote. Is he trying to say that MGS, MGS2, MGS3, GTA, GTA2, GTA3, Ratchet, Ratchet2, Ratchet3, Halo, Halo2, Halo3, Mario Party, Mario Party2 blahblahblahblahblahblah are not derivative? What a fool.

Why is it that when Sony and MS make sequels with better graphics, people say they are innovative? Nintendo makes something totally new and they say it's going to get old fast and it's a fad. His words are going to hit him where it hurts....his wallet.



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johnlucas said:

Stupidity.

Sega if smart will fire this idiot. They are going to have to make smart decisions not dumb ones to maintain status in this business. Employees like that hold you back. The REAL Sega recognizes the value of innovation and would be on Wii like white on rice.

It's laughable how many people still desperately hang on to this 'Wii Bubble' myth.

I love how The Source broke the issue down here on the "Wii Bubble"

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=3018&start=0#end

I just realized that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics will be huge this year! People leave that out of the big holiday games but that will be just as much a monster as Galaxy and Brawl I believe.

John Lucas


 I don't know if firing him would be the next appropriate action...but it sure doesn't seem like he's fully on the train...

And yeah, I keep forgetting about Mario & Sonic...that has a lot of potential...



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Sega's success on the Wii is dependant on people not saying things like this so yes he will get a talkin' to. He is basically shooting himself in the foot. It would be the same as someone making a game for the N-gage and trying to convince people that it's a fad and won't last that long so maybe don't bother buying it. Hmmm let's see. Trying to sell games on the Wii but at the same time saying something that might limit it's userbase. Yep dumb as it sounds.



 

 

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16523

Sega's Steinberg Clarifies Wii Comments

Sega of America's VP of Marketing Scott Steinberg (right) has clarified his previous comments that he made to Reuters. Steinberg is still very much a Wii supporter and he said the responsibility of innovation on Wii is on Sega just as much as it's on anyone in the industry. More within...

In a recent interview with Reuters Sega of America's marketing vp Scott Steinberg made some very interesting comments regarding the Wii and PS3, casting some doubt on the Wii's long-term prospects.

 

In a new statement sent to GameDaily BIZ, however, Steinberg clarified his position, noting that Sega has and always will be behind the Wii.

 

Here's his new statement in full:

 

"SEGA has fully supported the Wii since day one and we continue to do so – it's no secret that we are close partners. Nintendo has done a masterful job of selling its vision and expanding the market. That said, it's a shared responsibility and opportunity for the whole industry to take advantage of the possibilities of the Wii. If we don't realize its true potential, we will have missed a great opportunity to expand creatively and that is what I was cautioning against in the Reuters interview. I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on SEGA and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag.

 

SEGA has been behind the Wii since day one. At E3 2006, our booth was one of the only places you could play a Wii game other than at the Nintendo's. We had playable versions of Super Monkey Ball and Sonic and the Secret Secret Rings up and running. We also just announced a historic partnership with Nintendo to create Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games – a title that SEGA and Nintendo are developing together exclusively for the Wii and DS. We currently have seven titles that we've announced for the Wii such as The Golden Compass, NiGHTS and Ghost Squad, and many more in development.

 

The Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 all have their own unique advantages. SEGA is excited to be publishing for all three consoles."

 



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In other words, "I got in trouble for speaking my mind so now I have to pretend to take it all back." :P



FishyJoe said:

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16523

Sega's Steinberg Clarifies Wii Comments

Sega of America's VP of Marketing Scott Steinberg (right) has clarified his previous comments that he made to Reuters. Steinberg is still very much a Wii supporter and he said the responsibility of innovation on Wii is on Sega just as much as it's on anyone in the industry. More within...

In a recent interview with Reuters Sega of America's marketing vp Scott Steinberg made some very interesting comments regarding the Wii and PS3, casting some doubt on the Wii's long-term prospects.

 

In a new statement sent to GameDaily BIZ, however, Steinberg clarified his position, noting that Sega has and always will be behind the Wii.

 

Here's his new statement in full:

 

"SEGA has fully supported the Wii since day one and we continue to do so – it's no secret that we are close partners. Nintendo has done a masterful job of selling its vision and expanding the market. That said, it's a shared responsibility and opportunity for the whole industry to take advantage of the possibilities of the Wii. If we don't realize its true potential, we will have missed a great opportunity to expand creatively and that is what I was cautioning against in the Reuters interview. I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on SEGA and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag.

 

SEGA has been behind the Wii since day one. At E3 2006, our booth was one of the only places you could play a Wii game other than at the Nintendo's. We had playable versions of Super Monkey Ball and Sonic and the Secret Secret Rings up and running. We also just announced a historic partnership with Nintendo to create Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games – a title that SEGA and Nintendo are developing together exclusively for the Wii and DS. We currently have seven titles that we've announced for the Wii such as The Golden Compass, NiGHTS and Ghost Squad, and many more in development.

 

The Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 all have their own unique advantages. SEGA is excited to be publishing for all three consoles."

 


 hahahaha, big rofl.

 

I love when idiots like this and the one who called the wii a piece of shit have to eat their words just because they are afraid to lose their job.

 



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carlos710 said:
FishyJoe said:

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16523

Sega's Steinberg Clarifies Wii Comments

Sega of America's VP of Marketing Scott Steinberg (right) has clarified his previous comments that he made to Reuters. Steinberg is still very much a Wii supporter and he said the responsibility of innovation on Wii is on Sega just as much as it's on anyone in the industry. More within...

In a recent interview with Reuters Sega of America's marketing vp Scott Steinberg made some very interesting comments regarding the Wii and PS3, casting some doubt on the Wii's long-term prospects.

 

In a new statement sent to GameDaily BIZ, however, Steinberg clarified his position, noting that Sega has and always will be behind the Wii.

 

Here's his new statement in full:

 

"SEGA has fully supported the Wii since day one and we continue to do so – it's no secret that we are close partners. Nintendo has done a masterful job of selling its vision and expanding the market. That said, it's a shared responsibility and opportunity for the whole industry to take advantage of the possibilities of the Wii. If we don't realize its true potential, we will have missed a great opportunity to expand creatively and that is what I was cautioning against in the Reuters interview. I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on SEGA and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag.

 

SEGA has been behind the Wii since day one. At E3 2006, our booth was one of the only places you could play a Wii game other than at the Nintendo's. We had playable versions of Super Monkey Ball and Sonic and the Secret Secret Rings up and running. We also just announced a historic partnership with Nintendo to create Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games – a title that SEGA and Nintendo are developing together exclusively for the Wii and DS. We currently have seven titles that we've announced for the Wii such as The Golden Compass, NiGHTS and Ghost Squad, and many more in development.

 

The Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 all have their own unique advantages. SEGA is excited to be publishing for all three consoles."

 


hahahaha, big rofl.

 

I love when idiots like this and the one who called the wii a piece of shit have to eat their words just because they are afraid to lose their job.

 

We still know how he really thinks about the Wii so it does not matter really :D

 



 
ckmlb said:

 Not next year, over the coming years. Hand held is very different from console too, everyone is much more forgiving of hand held graphics by logic because it is a hand held. There won't be a seismic shift but there might be a slow shift it's not impossible. Also the hardcore crowd (except for the all 3 console adopters and Nintendo fans) are big buyers of software and they are going to stay away from the Wii this generation it is looking like more and more (unless things change).

The kind of people who buy Wii for the novelty (Casual non gamer types) are going to buy like 2-3 games a year or maybe 5 tops (holidays and b-days and such). But if there are such a huge amount of casual gamers that get interested in the Wii then that won't matter that is still an unknown in the long run if the innovation of the Wii will still attract non gamers in 2 years or whatnot.


I'm sorry, but you never answered my actual point: Wii graphics are already badly outdated, yet it (and PS2, for that matter) continues to outsell both 360 and PS3. If poor graphics aren't stopping people from buying it now, why will that suddenly change next year, or two years from now? There are several points in the above paragraphs that touch on this issue:

1) Wii graphics won't be an issue next year, but in "the coming years." That puts us at 2009 at the earliest, by which time this generation will be half over. Are you suggeting that the Wii will dominate the sales charts for two years, then suddenly fall behind after that? Because that would buck the trend of every single previous generation in history. Possible, but incredibly unlikely.

2) The handheld market is different from the console one; graphics matter more for consoles. There's a kernel of truth here, but the current sales trends do not support this argument. The Wii is not the same as the DS, but they're more similar than different, right?

3) Hardcore gamers drive software sales, and they will pass on the Wii. There's two major assumptions here, neither of which I think is true. There's no way to prove who exactly is buying those Wiis, but it strains credibility to think that the "hardcore" crowd has totally rejected the Wii. Many of them will probably purchase multiple consoles, which hardly hurts Nintendo. As far as software sales, the success of games like Mario Party, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, and Wii Play cast doubt on the notion that hardcore gamers drive software sales at all, much less that the Wii will suffer from poor sales of games. At the least, we should wait and see what happens this holiday season before making this kind of projection (the recent sales data certainly does not back it up).

4) Casual gamers won't purchase games, or will quickly lose interest in the Wii. This is the tired old "the Wii is a fad!" argument and nothing else. This is zero evidence to support this assertion, and much to disprove it.

So I ask you again: if the 360 and PS3 can't even outsell the PS2, how are they somehow going to rise up and overtake the Wii? Consumers are voting with their wallets, and overwhelmingly delivering the verdict that they don't much care about graphics. Why anyone thinks this will suddenly change a year from now is beyond me.



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Yojimbo said:
carlos710 said:
FishyJoe said:

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16523

Sega's Steinberg Clarifies Wii Comments

Sega of America's VP of Marketing Scott Steinberg (right) has clarified his previous comments that he made to Reuters. Steinberg is still very much a Wii supporter and he said the responsibility of innovation on Wii is on Sega just as much as it's on anyone in the industry. More within...

In a recent interview with Reuters Sega of America's marketing vp Scott Steinberg made some very interesting comments regarding the Wii and PS3, casting some doubt on the Wii's long-term prospects.

 

In a new statement sent to GameDaily BIZ, however, Steinberg clarified his position, noting that Sega has and always will be behind the Wii.

 

Here's his new statement in full:

 

"SEGA has fully supported the Wii since day one and we continue to do so – it's no secret that we are close partners. Nintendo has done a masterful job of selling its vision and expanding the market. That said, it's a shared responsibility and opportunity for the whole industry to take advantage of the possibilities of the Wii. If we don't realize its true potential, we will have missed a great opportunity to expand creatively and that is what I was cautioning against in the Reuters interview. I'm not just putting the responsibility of innovation on Nintendo. It's on SEGA and all the publishers and developers as well to carry that flag.

 

SEGA has been behind the Wii since day one. At E3 2006, our booth was one of the only places you could play a Wii game other than at the Nintendo's. We had playable versions of Super Monkey Ball and Sonic and the Secret Secret Rings up and running. We also just announced a historic partnership with Nintendo to create Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games – a title that SEGA and Nintendo are developing together exclusively for the Wii and DS. We currently have seven titles that we've announced for the Wii such as The Golden Compass, NiGHTS and Ghost Squad, and many more in development.

 

The Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 all have their own unique advantages. SEGA is excited to be publishing for all three consoles."

 


hahahaha, big rofl.

 

I love when idiots like this and the one who called the wii a piece of shit have to eat their words just because they are afraid to lose their job.

 

We still know how he really thinks about the Wii so it does not matter really :D

 


We also know why he had to take it back: the Wii is selling like gangbusters, and Sega has too much money at stake. If he were mocking Atari, his comments could have stood their ground, because Sega doesn't lose any money if people know they think Atari is fat and ugly and no one likes them.

Moral of the story: whatever you think about the Wii, if you don't get on the this freight train of a system, you will be crushed beneath it. 



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