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The millions of people that used to watch MTV's TRL to get 10 seconds of their favorite music video would disagree.



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curl-6 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I've never heard the song before but exactly my point. Watching them bang there heads and having a very specific theme towards what's on the video ruins what your mind can muster. The song is amorphous, the video is set in stone. 

When September ends by green day also has a great video much like this but it ads nothing. That song could be about so much without the video, it could mean whatever you feel and then seeing it on MTV locks it into being a song about a soldier leaving his girlfriend. It added nothing but a defined theme that wasn't asked for.

The song here isn't amorphous though, the words are about something.

You know you can just... not watch the music video right? It's not compulsory, you can just ignore it completely and listen to the song is isolation.

But I did watch it. I can't tell if it's a boon or bust cause I never heard the song, as you say in isolation. 



Pajderman said:

I almost exclusively listen to music without any text. When I start to try and actually listen to the words almost without fal the music gets worse imo. Most texts are simply awful. I think the display from music videos might have a similar effect.

Exactly. If you read lyrics it has the exact same effect. Often have I listened to a song, read the lyrics and what I thought I heard was a disaster in reality. 



Farsala said:

I don't know. When I was a kid I really liked a lot of songs because of the music videos, specifically when they had a lot of hot girls. I probably wouldn't have liked so many of them without the music videos.

I do remember these times, good point. Not sure I would have liked half the songs on Sky music channels either without the eye candy. Damn, when I think about it on this perspective perhaps music videos held some value back then. 



rapsuperstar31 said:

The millions of people that used to watch MTV's TRL to get 10 seconds of their favorite music video would disagree.

Indeed, I remember flicking through music channels as I said above. Perhaps I am wrong, at least for a specific time period. I have to rethink my OP. 



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Kaunisto said:

I've never much listened to music, so for me music videos were always the major window to music. Now that for a decade or so there hasn't been a handy music video channel on TV to leave on, I've generally missed all new music (not that it seems to be a big loss).
Being a big movie guy, I'm afraid I appreciate music videos more than the music itself.

If it makes music better for ya, nice one. I would recommend closing your eyes with headphones in or doing an activity and let the music make your own imagination go wild. At least try it. 



Chris Hu said:

The is nothing wrong with music videos. Also, if you do not like them, it's pretty easy to avoid them.

Indeed. It is and I will from now on. 



im going to give two examples just off the top of my head of how this goes both ways

example 1: good: soundgarden - black hole sun.
i would say the video definitely adds to the music. its weird and definitely not what i would be thinking when i heard the song, but in a good way. now when i listen, i feel like the song hits better than it did before now that i have seen the video. my daughter likes it when the barbie burns.

example 2: bad: linkin park - what i've done.
when you listen to this song, it sounds very introspective. it sounds like there is something somebody personally regrets in their lives and is in turmoil over it. that they have become something they dont respect and are having a hard time dealing with it. i think we can all relate to that on some level, either big or small. when you watch the video, its a bunch of war imagery. wtf? now for me, it doesnt "ruin" the song, but i do think it was a very curious decision and doesn't fit with the music. at all.

in the grand scheme of things, i feel like the video has no impact on the music. in these two cases i laid out, i think it does, but i do not think it is very common. 



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angrypoolman said:

im going to give two examples just off the top of my head of how this goes both ways

example 1: good: soundgarden - black hole sun.
i would say the video definitely adds to the music. its weird and definitely not what i would be thinking when i heard the song, but in a good way. now when i listen, i feel like the song hits better than it did before now that i have seen the video. my daughter likes it when the barbie burns.

example 2: bad: linkin park - what i've done.
when you listen to this song, it sounds very introspective. it sounds like there is something somebody personally regrets in their lives and is in turmoil over it. that they have become something they dont respect and are having a hard time dealing with it. i think we can all relate to that on some level, either big or small. when you watch the video, its a bunch of war imagery. wtf? now for me, it doesnt "ruin" the song, but i do think it was a very curious decision and doesn't fit with the music. at all.

in the grand scheme of things, i feel like the video has no impact on the music. in these two cases i laid out, i think it does, but i do not think it is very common. 

Yeah. War imagery is so clitche as with the video added above and When September ends which I already mentioned, I can name so many but From Yesterday by 30 seconds to Mars and the Samurai video make no sense to the song and what's written and then they had a song called This is War and it's modern warfare but STILL, It doesn't fit the song despite it being about war. 

@OP. Idk why visualizer art didn't become mainstream before music videos. The only good music videos are that of 90's ballads, they made them epic and of high quality Hollywood production. If you're gonna do it, do it well. 



I don't think they're the worst thing, but I agree that they don't generally do anything of value. Much of the time, they feel like they're there just to grab attention. It's also not rare for music videos to not even match the song all that well - I mean they technically match the lyrics, but it might still feel very off, and that's probably because music video production can probably be very detached from actually writing the song. For these reasons, I don't watch a lot of music videos. I'm sure there's some genuinely good music videos as well, but I'm not too interested in trying to find them.

That said, lyric videos are something I have more appreciation of. Obviously they're not all great either, but they tend to feel less pretentious, and it feels like they can do cooler stuff visually without taking away from the music.