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JRPGfan said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I just want some bush back on this title statement or agreement. Is the world not fucked on multiple fronts in the near to mid term future. I'm not talking 2050 here, like this coming decade. 

In the 90's I was young and foolish, a kid.... but my outlook on the future of mankind was a lot more positive than it currently is.
I feel like we're not on as "good a path" as we were back then.

It's like the entire world took a few too many wrong turns or something.

Some of it is cultural... like the metoo, feminism gone overboard, dating being basically a thing of the past / hookup culture, women swearing off men (man hate), men replying with "men go their own way", not to mention stuff like gender policies/identity stuff.  We had a period of body positivity that was just women promoting being fat (how many of these influencers died in their 30/40s? its not healthy to die at 40, because of lifestyle choices). Europe doesn't look the same. There are so many 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants that don't want to assimilate into society, learn to speak local languages, or attempt to fit in.  Look at France, with the mass riots over nothing (schooling spend supposedly), and then their hatred for western society means they think its okay to run around setting stuff on fire, or smashing things, mass destruction just leads more spending on upkeep.  The replacement theory has born true... some parts of Europe the immigrant are higher % of the population than the people originally from there.  Like Luxembourg, the people (natives) of the country are less than 50% of the population now. All of Europe will soon turn Muslim, and start to look like the middle east / africa.

Then there is global warming (rising sea levels).... and all the wars, and fights for resources to come (water, oil).  

in short yes... the world seems fucked.
Western society, does seem on a downward trend.

Who knows what impacts will come from A.I or a SGI being born?

What the ???

This is some next level Islamophobia and women hatred. Europe will soon turn Muslim? 6% of Europe identify as Muslim.

The second biggest demographic in Luxembourg in Portugese
https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/society-and-culture/population/demographics.html

Mass riots over nothing? The student protests in France actually started after teacher's started striking, students backing up the teachers, demanding more funding, demanding France prioritize education over austerity measures, including recently eliminating 4,000 teaching positions
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/whats-driving-the-french-student-protests

They're not led by hatred of western society wtf? The violence is a result from the heavy handed security measures by police firing tear gas at kids.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/14/french-students-are-not-just-protesting-for-better-schools-but-for-their-future

The kids are rightly worried about their future and direction of the country (countries, it has spread to Belgium, Albenia, Greece, Italy) but nothing to do with 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants or replacement theory. That's the scapegoat the government uses to deflect.

Yeah Europe is fucked, by the rise of the far right. Not by students demanding education and a future.



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JRPGfan said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

We've adapted for around 300,000 years, Dinosaurs had around a 180 million years of adaptation.  If humans exist in a million years, they will look nothing like humans do today.  We as an us on the planet now will be be fine yes.

That assumes that survival of the fittest pushes genetic changes....
What is true for dinosaurs isn't for mankind.

I think unless we master genetic modification to the point where we can design super humans or something...
we'll basically stay as is for the next million years, if we re still around by then.

Nope, change is always happening, including for humans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEhOZJ55Ve8



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Eh, things always looked fucked. But while we certainly have setbacks, humanity overall improves generally. I am cautiously optimistic about the future.

To illustrate that: Thomas Robert Malthus was an english economist who lived from 1766 to 1834. He observed that the global human population had entered an exponential growth. Based on that he predicted resources (he focused on food) would become a limit as it grows only linear and he thought humanity would be fucked. But it didn't happen. We didn't all starve. The exponential growth of human population was correct - but resources didn't grow linear, with technological progress exploding alongside population growth it also grew exponentially.

That is the thing. We solved many problems. Nowadays we face the problem of climate change, but people forget we had similar global crises with the depletion of the ozone layer and acid rain, both the result of human activity. We solved it by regulations on companies.

We face big problems, but if our technological progress keeps up we can solve them. There is a risk though. Technological progress is not only tied to population alone (more people have more ideas). It also needs generally good education and global knowledge exchange. If those are breaking up we might face trouble.



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Mnementh said:

Eh, things always looked fucked. But while we certainly have setbacks, humanity overall improves generally. I am cautiously optimistic about the future.

To illustrate that: Thomas Robert Malthus was an english economist who lived from 1766 to 1834. He observed that the global human population had entered an exponential growth. Based on that he predicted resources (he focused on food) would become a limit as it grows only linear and he thought humanity would be fucked. But it didn't happen. We didn't all starve. The exponential growth of human population was correct - but resources didn't grow linear, with technological progress exploding alongside population growth it also grew exponentially.

That is the thing. We solved many problems. Nowadays we face the problem of climate change, but people forget we had similar global crises with the depletion of the ozone layer and acid rain, both the result of human activity. We solved it by regulations on companies.

The problem is that like vaccines, the measures to combat acid rain and the ozone layer depletion worked so well that conservatives eventually decided they were not needed and were needlessly expensive regulations. In the US, at least, a lot of those regulations were enacted under conservative presidents like Nixon, Ford, and Reagan. Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and it was under Reagan that the use of tetraethyl lead as an anti-knock agent in gasoline?petrol was ended in the United States. That is credited in part for the precipitous drop in the crime rate from the 1990s onward. Trump is running his government according to complaints from his billionaire buddies that these regulations are too onerous. His EPA chief is actually rolling back decades of progress.

Part of the problem here is that the signs of neglect of the environment are less visible and more sinister. In the 1970s, we had visual representations of the problem with the heavy blanket of smog over Los Angeles that turned the air brown, similar to Mexico City today, or Beijing 20 years ago. The Cuyahoga River, which is the river that supplies the Cleveland metropolitan area with water, actually caught fire, twice, due to industrial runoff. In the late 1970s, there was a town in upstate New York that sat directly on top of a dump where decades of chemicals and (allegedly) waste from the Manhattan Project had been buried and were leaking into a school playground. There was a valley in Kentucky filled with rusting chemical drums. 

Today, the biggest polluting state in the United States is Texas, and Texas has become much more influential in the U.S. government in recent years. California's cities sit in the middle of valleys surrounded by some of the highest mountains in the United States, which trapped the pollution generated by industrial, commercial, and personal burning of hydrocarbons and caused L.A.'s notorious smog. Texas, on the other hand, is one of the flattest states in the U.S. There are no mountains in the densely inhabited East Texas Triangle that trap pollution over Dallas and Houston.  The carbon and pollutants generated by industry and traffic in Houston and Dallas spread out over the southeastern U.S. And because there are fewer visible signs of the effects of Texas's air pollution on the environment, it's easier for Texas business leaders and politicians to deny the effects of human activity on the environment.  They can also point to industrial businesses that move their operations from California to Texas because of lax regulations on pollution (and worker safety) to further reinforce their position. So until people in Texas actually see visible effects from their environment, they'll deny the problem exists. 

Same thing with infectious diseases that were nearly eradicated by vaccines and are now making a comeback, thanks to wellness influencers and now reinforced by the guy who was put in charge of public health in the United States. I'm just glad that when the world was fighting against smallpox that RFK Jr. and today's wellness influencers. had no influence on anything. Same thing with food safety regulations. They weren't 100 percent infallible, but they worked as long as there was rigorous enforcement and internal compliance. Now that food safety regulations have been rolled back, we're seeing mass recalls pretty frequently. 

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The world is as messed up as you allow it to be. Want chaos? It's out there. Boy, is it out there. Want peace? Same thing. Harder to get, but it's there. You just have to make your world into the world you want it to be. When you do that, everything that bothers you just fades away.



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SvennoJ said:
JRPGfan said:

In the 90's I was young and foolish, a kid.... but my outlook on the future of mankind was a lot more positive than it currently is.
I feel like we're not on as "good a path" as we were back then.

It's like the entire world took a few too many wrong turns or something.

Some of it is cultural... like the metoo, feminism gone overboard, dating being basically a thing of the past / hookup culture, women swearing off men (man hate), men replying with "men go their own way", not to mention stuff like gender policies/identity stuff.  We had a period of body positivity that was just women promoting being fat (how many of these influencers died in their 30/40s? its not healthy to die at 40, because of lifestyle choices). Europe doesn't look the same. There are so many 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants that don't want to assimilate into society, learn to speak local languages, or attempt to fit in.  Look at France, with the mass riots over nothing (schooling spend supposedly), and then their hatred for western society means they think its okay to run around setting stuff on fire, or smashing things, mass destruction just leads more spending on upkeep.  The replacement theory has born true... some parts of Europe the immigrant are higher % of the population than the people originally from there.  Like Luxembourg, the people (natives) of the country are less than 50% of the population now. All of Europe will soon turn Muslim, and start to look like the middle east / africa.

Then there is global warming (rising sea levels).... and all the wars, and fights for resources to come (water, oil).  

in short yes... the world seems fucked.
Western society, does seem on a downward trend.

Who knows what impacts will come from A.I or a SGI being born?

What the ???

This is some next level Islamophobia and women hatred. Europe will soon turn Muslim? 6% of Europe identify as Muslim.

The second biggest demographic in Luxembourg in Portugese
https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/society-and-culture/population/demographics.html

Mass riots over nothing? The student protests in France actually started after teacher's started striking, students backing up the teachers, demanding more funding, demanding France prioritize education over austerity measures, including recently eliminating 4,000 teaching positions
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/whats-driving-the-french-student-protests

They're not led by hatred of western society wtf? The violence is a result from the heavy handed security measures by police firing tear gas at kids.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/14/french-students-are-not-just-protesting-for-better-schools-but-for-their-future

The kids are rightly worried about their future and direction of the country (countries, it has spread to Belgium, Albenia, Greece, Italy) but nothing to do with 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants or replacement theory. That's the scapegoat the government uses to deflect.

Yeah Europe is fucked, by the rise of the far right. Not by students demanding education and a future.

"over nothing" yes.
Needing more teachers, teacher's saying they want more money/time for training them, students complaining about "long school hours"....

That happens everywhere, all students think their day in school is too long.
If they had it there way, schooling would be like 3-4 hours and then done.
However the world doesn't function like that, complaining about 8hours or so at school is not reason for setting stuff on fire.

Same with low resources, for more teachers.  Having 1 teacher for like 20-25 ppl, is not optimal, but happens again many places in the world.
It is not a reason to go around burning stuff down, and destroy cities.



As the comment about Islamophobia.... (it is not a phobia btw, that is a irrational fear, Muslim majority has actual consequence for countries)
yes, I worry about the changes it has to society.
Most countries (europe) are christian and run on christian ideals.
Society changes when the people making it up does.

There is more violence, rape, more terrorist attacks ect with increased amounts of muslims in these countries.
Sharia law.... is a big one.

its more than that, even small stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZCuF733p88




Islam is not a friend of science (it was long ago, until their teachings of islam changed).
Society and development would crawl to stop, if the entire world was Muslim.

This is Neil Degrasse saying there are over 1.3bn muslims in the world, but they have like 3 nobel prices combined earned.
The Muslim countries contribute nothing to science or research, or betterment of society. 

Is it wrong to want to see Europe stay majority christian?


About Luxembourg if you google it, it shows:

1) 1st generation, 49% of of the population or born outsides it.
2) 2nd generation of immigrants are 24%
3) 3rd generation of immigrants are 26%

In total 73,7% of their population is not native, if you look just 2 generations back from the current one.

Like at what point is it okay to point out, that the native born or people from the region are becoming a minority in their own country?

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JRPGfan said:
SvennoJ said:

What the ???

This is some next level Islamophobia and women hatred. Europe will soon turn Muslim? 6% of Europe identify as Muslim.

The second biggest demographic in Luxembourg in Portugese
https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/society-and-culture/population/demographics.html

Mass riots over nothing? The student protests in France actually started after teacher's started striking, students backing up the teachers, demanding more funding, demanding France prioritize education over austerity measures, including recently eliminating 4,000 teaching positions
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/whats-driving-the-french-student-protests

They're not led by hatred of western society wtf? The violence is a result from the heavy handed security measures by police firing tear gas at kids.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/14/french-students-are-not-just-protesting-for-better-schools-but-for-their-future

The kids are rightly worried about their future and direction of the country (countries, it has spread to Belgium, Albenia, Greece, Italy) but nothing to do with 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants or replacement theory. That's the scapegoat the government uses to deflect.

Yeah Europe is fucked, by the rise of the far right. Not by students demanding education and a future.

"over nothing" yes.
Needing more teachers, teacher's saying they want more money/time for training them, students complaining about "long school hours"....

That happens everywhere, all students think their day in school is too long.
If they had it there way, schooling would be like 3-4 hours and then done.
However the world doesn't function like that, complaining about 8hours or so at school is not reason for setting stuff on fire.

Same with low resources, for more teachers.  Having 1 teacher for like 20-25 ppl, is not optimal, but happens again many places in the world.
It is not a reason to go around burning stuff down, and destroy cities.



As the comment about Islamophobia.... (it is not a phobia btw, that is a irrational fear, Muslim majority has actual consequence for countries)
yes, I worry about the changes it has to society.
Most countries (europe) are christian and run on christian ideals.
Society changes when the people making it up does.

There is more violence, rape, more terrorist attacks ect with increased amounts of muslims in these countries.
Sharia law.... is a big one.

its more than that, even small stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZCuF733p88




Islam is not a friend of science (it was long ago, until their teachings of islam changed).
Society and development would crawl to stop, if the entire world was Muslim.

This is Neil Degrasse saying there are over 1.3bn muslims in the world, but they have like 3 nobel prices combined earned.
The Muslim countries contribute nothing to science or research, or betterment of society. 

Is it wrong to want to see Europe stay majority christian?


About Luxembourg if you google it, it shows:

1) 1st generation, 49% of of the population or born outsides it.
2) 2nd generation of immigrants are 24%
3) 3rd generation of immigrants are 26%

In total 73,7% of their population is not native, if you look just 2 generations back from the current one.

Like at what point is it okay to point out, that the native born or people from the region are becoming a minority in their own country?

It's clear you don't even bother to read the links or listen to facts.
(Plus Adding 49% + 24% + 26% equals 99%. If 99% of Luxembourg wasn't native, the country would have virtually zero native citizens)

Using Luxembourg as your gotcha example has nothing to do with your tirade against Muslims, who only make up 6% of Europe's population (Christianity 67%). You have an irrational fear indeed. Luxembourg's Muslim population is under the European average btw. Luxembourg dealt with emigration and declining population, I'll just copy paste it here:

"How did we get to this point? For a long time, Luxembourg has witnessed waves of emigration. Some of its population left their land and homes in waves to Romania, the United States and Brazil, before the economic boom triggered by the steel industry caused the tide to turn.

Entire families and sometimes entire villages left the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg in the hope of finding a better life. Thus, there were 16,000 Luxembourgish emigrants living in Chicago in 1908! Some became famous in their new homeland, such as Hugo Gernsback (1884-1967), who coined the term 'science fiction', or Edward Steichen, a painter and famous photographer, who became Director of the Department of Photography in the New York Museum of Modern Art (MoMA).

From the second half of the 19th century, Germans settled in Luxembourg to work in the country's steel mills, followed by the Italians in the 20th century. In the 1960s, thousands of Portuguese fled the dictatorship and poverty and moved to Luxembourg.

In the second half of the 20th century, the service sector grew, especially the finance sector. This new economic boom was linked to the growth of French, Belgian and German communities in Luxembourg, but Luxembourg also attracted a large number of nationals from the British Isles and Scandinavian countries, who settled in the Grand Duchy to work.

As the years went by, these communities integrated into Luxembourg's population, even if they kept some of their customs and languages."

And are they suffering under their 180+ nationalities stir pot?
https://workinluxembourg.com/news/luxembourg-ranks-9th-in-the-world-happiness-report-2026



Your statement that more Muslims in countries increase crime is pure fabrication, sowing hatred and misinformation.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/debunking_the_myth_of_immigrants_and_crime.pdf
https://rapecrisis.org.uk/news/prevent-hijacking-conversation-vawg-letter/
https://www.enar-eu.org/wp-content/uploads/debunkingmyths_lr_final.pdf

There is no evidence to support your rather racist claim, any evidence points in the opposite direction. Immigrants commit fewer crimes. While study after study shows that crime rates are dictated by poverty and socioeconomic instability, not religion.



Muslim impact on science is growing
https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20221011153020453

The reasons there aren't many Nobel price winners are diverse
https://thearabweekly.com/why-there-arent-many-arab-nobel-science-laureates

Including

“One of the main reasons holding back Arab scientists is the minimal support received by the scientific community. This prevents labs from having advanced facilities or [following] current technological trends, [which] makes it even more difficult to receive international grants,” he said.

Yet the biggest underlying reason is the lack of funding:

In 2012, Saudi Arabia spent 0.25% of its GDP, Tunisia 0.68% and Qatar 0.47% on research and development. Even the private sector in Arab countries is said to be hesitant about investing in scientific research because it has little faith in it.

And oh look, that's what the students in France are protesting about, not about long school hours.

(middle- and high-school students lost as many as twenty million class hours last year, owing to staff shortages). They want a shorter, more efficient school day.

That's not complaining about long school hours, that's complaining about not getting education while at school waiting for a teacher.

So in a roundabout way you're proving the point of the French student strikes.



Btw you are misinterpreting Tyson's clip:

Tyson explicitly says in that clip that the Islamic Golden Age was the "greatest golden age in the history of the world" for science. He says the decline is because of a historical shift in political/clerical interpretation (Al-Ghazali), not because "the entire world would stop if it were Muslim." Tyson is not attacking Muslims, he is lamenting the tragedy of political and systemic shifts that crushed a once-thriving scientific powerhouse, explicitly stating that it is a heritage worth resurrecting.

It's again politics, the same kind of politics you are actually promoting, Christianity should be only influence....
French students are rightly protesting politic's decisions to stifle their education.



And to ease your fears, even under the absolute highest migration projections, Europe by 2050 will be at most 14% Muslim, still 65% Christian
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Europe’s Muslim population is projected to be around 11.2% by 2050.



Your right SvennoJ.

I didn't even bother to check if they added up to the claimed % google stated.
I just googled it, because I had heard it was one of the places with high amounts of immigrants.

And maybe my perception of Muslims committing more crime, is colored from watch reports on the UK grooming gangs,
and are made up of mostly exclusively immigrant muslims.



Thank you.

I learned more about Luxembourg as well, previously it was just a cheap stop for cigarettes while driving through to France, tax free. And yeah, the media hypes up the worst and forgets about actual statistics. At one of the Maga rallies in the US they asked people how high they thought the Muslim population was after all the scare rhetoric, they though 30%, actually it's 1 to 1.6% avg in the US, Illinois leading with 3.7%.

Anyway I agree that church and state should be separated, whether it's majority Christian or Muslim countries. Religion should not have any part in politics, and politics should not limit the freedom to practice religion.



SvennoJ said:

Thank you.

I learned more about Luxembourg as well, previously it was just a cheap stop for cigarettes while driving through to France, tax free. And yeah, the media hypes up the worst and forgets about actual statistics. At one of the Maga rallies in the US they asked people how high they thought the Muslim population was after all the scare rhetoric, they though 30%, actually it's 1 to 1.6% avg in the US, Illinois leading with 3.7%.

Anyway I agree that church and state should be separated, whether it's majority Christian or Muslim countries. Religion should not have any part in politics, and politics should not limit the freedom to practice religion.

They also like to bring up Dearborn, MI as a boogeyman, or a city of boogeymen. I've been to Dearborn. It's a pretty nice place, and I got along well. By contrast, there are a lot of small towns in the South I've visited where I was clearly not welcome. And I'm a white dude.