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curl-6 said:
Manlytears said:

Please, don't get me wrong...

Ocarina of Time is a unique game for its time, absolutely revolutionary and influential! Likely the absolute peak of Nintendo when they used to be top dog of visuals, gameplay and tech for games.

However, it's a game that marks the beginning of 3D; after that, things evolved a lot.

Ocarina of Time was the "baby steps" in 3D games of this category. Since then, industry started walking, running and running even faster. Things have evolved, massive "update" will be necessary, and I really don't believe that will be the case... I hope I'm wrong, but if they basically put "the original game" with just new graphics and maybe minor gameplay/movement/camera adjustments, it won't be good...

It will be well-received by critics, but only because of the name. I don't think such remake can reach +10M, unless it's updated to the standards of current generation of games.

Now, on other titles...

Star Fox > It's been over 20 years since Nintendo made a good Star Fox.

Fire Emblem > I love FE, one of my favorite IPs, but certainly not a big IP, market is small, sadly.

Yoshi > Likely a small title. I admit the potential for this one, but I'm not very confident.

Splatoon Raiders > This one is tricky... Nintendo called the game a "single-player spinoff." A full fledge Splatoon is indeed a +10M seller, but a "single player spinoff"... not sure, I have my doubts.

Thing is, an Ocarina remake doesn't have to limited to just improving the visuals; there's plenty of room for virtually all its aspects to be improved without sacrificing what makes it great. And honestly, even if it is just a visual and QoL overhaul, that would still hold immense value for millions as it would represent a chance to relive a treasured childhood classic. I wouldn't underestimate just how much power Ocarina holds over a generation of Nintendo gamers.

There's no reason a new Starfox can't be good either, their last attempt was during a vastly different era and the Nintendo of 2015 is not the Nintendo of today, they're in a much better position now.

As for Splatoon, it has enormous cultural power in Japan virtually guaranteeing many millions there, and an effort on par with Nintendo's tentpole single player games would attract many people who prefer playing solo and found prior games too online-oriented. One of the complaints about prior games was that the campaign offerings weren't meaty enough, this would remedy that and thereby appeal to new players.

Sorry for my edits. I believe they keep the original context of all my declarations and just make my ideas easier to understand.



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Manlytears said:
curl-6 said:

Thing is, an Ocarina remake doesn't have to limited to just improving the visuals; there's plenty of room for virtually all its aspects to be improved without sacrificing what makes it great. And honestly, even if it is just a visual and QoL overhaul, that would still hold immense value for millions as it would represent a chance to relive a treasured childhood classic. I wouldn't underestimate just how much power Ocarina holds over a generation of Nintendo gamers.

There's no reason a new Starfox can't be good either, their last attempt was during a vastly different era and the Nintendo of 2015 is not the Nintendo of today, they're in a much better position now.

As for Splatoon, it has enormous cultural power in Japan virtually guaranteeing many millions there, and an effort on par with Nintendo's tentpole single player games would attract many people who prefer playing solo and found prior games too online-oriented. One of the complaints about prior games was that the campaign offerings weren't meaty enough, this would remedy that and thereby appeal to new players.

Sorry for my edits. I believe they keep the original context of all my declarations and just make my ideas easier to understand.

The third game is Pokopia, which is very likely to pass 10m.

Ocarina is one of the most beloved titles in gaming history which will give it a huge boost, and Splatoon's broken the 10m comfortably mark twice before and definitely has the potential to do so again if they can deliver a meaty single player component that hits the high standards of Nintendo's tentpole titles; what it loses by not being multiplayer could be compensated for by bringing in solo players who found prior games too lightweight in that department.

Yoshi and Fire Emblem may be smaller titles, but that's okay, all they need to do is give people some variety and something to play in between the heavy hitters, while satisfying their dedicates fanbases, similar to what say Xenoblade 2 did in 2017 or Pikmin 4 did in 2023.

Altogether, that's not a bad lineup at all, you've got something for cosy game fans, action-adventure fans, shooter fans, platformer fans, Millennial gamers, newer Nintendo fans, plus first party aside you've got the strongest third party catalog a Nintendo system has seen arguably since the SNES.



curl-6 said:
Manlytears said:

Sorry for my edits. I believe they keep the original context of all my declarations and just make my ideas easier to understand.

The third game is Pokopia, which is very likely to pass 10m.

Ocarina is one of the most beloved titles in gaming history which will give it a huge boost, and Splatoon's broken the 10m comfortably mark twice before and definitely has the potential to do so again if they can deliver a meaty single player component that hits the high standards of Nintendo's tentpole titles; what it loses by not being multiplayer could be compensated for by bringing in solo players who found prior games too lightweight in that department.

Yoshi and Fire Emblem may be smaller titles, but that's okay, all they need to do is give people some variety and something to play in between the heavy hitters, while satisfying their dedicates fanbases, similar to what say Xenoblade 2 did in 2017 or Pikmin 4 did in 2023.

Altogether, that's not a bad lineup at all, you've got something for cosy game fans, action-adventure fans, shooter fans, platformer fans, Millennial gamers, newer Nintendo fans, plus first party aside you've got the strongest third party catalog a Nintendo system has seen arguably since the SNES.

Your statements are reasonable.

I still believe the future isn't promising and I have a lot of skepticism, but I recognize that these games could end up surprising us, thus shaping up to be a competent 2026.

We just have to wait and see the final result.



Who cares what a "leaker' says?

Nate the hate has gotten many things wrong in the past.
For example when he said that Metroid Prime Trilogy HD was releasing in 2021.

Nate like Red Gaming Tech and Moores Law is Dead are "Speculators" they speculate on already established rumors... And thus have a history of incorrect speculations.

It will be an amazing day when people wake up to this garbage.




www.youtube.com/@Pemalite

Pemalite said:

Who cares what a "leaker' says?

Nate the hate has gotten many things wrong in the past.
For example when he said that Metroid Prime Trilogy HD was releasing in 2021.

Nate like Red Gaming Tech and Moores Law is Dead are "Speculators" they speculate on already established rumors... And thus have a history of incorrect speculations.

It will be an amazing day when people wake up to this garbage.

I think he likely has some sort of source as he's been reliably able to call Nintendo Directs days before they happen for a number of years now, and he even leaked the exact day of Switch 2's reveal. The odds of him just happening to guess all that seem low.

Thing is, no leaker, even if they do have a source, is going to be 100% accurate cos their source may not be high up enough in the industry to know everything.

I would agree that it is best to take all leaks with a grain of salt, but personally I'd put a lot more stock in Nate's word than say Moore's Law is Dead.



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curl-6 said:
Pemalite said:

Who cares what a "leaker' says?

Nate the hate has gotten many things wrong in the past.
For example when he said that Metroid Prime Trilogy HD was releasing in 2021.

Nate like Red Gaming Tech and Moores Law is Dead are "Speculators" they speculate on already established rumors... And thus have a history of incorrect speculations.

It will be an amazing day when people wake up to this garbage.

I think he likely has some sort of source as he's been reliably able to call Nintendo Directs days before they happen for a number of years now, and he even leaked the exact day of Switch 2's reveal. The odds of him just happening to guess all that seem low.

Thing is, no leaker, even if they do have a source, is going to be 100% accurate cos their source may not be high up enough in the industry to know everything.

I would agree that it is best to take all leaks with a grain of salt, but personally I'd put a lot more stock in Nate's word than say Moore's Law is Dead.

And yet. He still gets stuff wrong... Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Making predictions and getting them right is actually relatively easy if you understand a few triggers.

Case in point... On this forum I predicted that NAND and Ram would increase in price a year before it actually happened. How?
Educated guess and seeing market conditions starting to change.

That didn't make me a leaker. That made me a "speculator".

Nate is using a similar tactic, difference with him is that he has specialized in Nintendo platforms, I am specialized in PC hardware.




www.youtube.com/@Pemalite

Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

I think he likely has some sort of source as he's been reliably able to call Nintendo Directs days before they happen for a number of years now, and he even leaked the exact day of Switch 2's reveal. The odds of him just happening to guess all that seem low.

Thing is, no leaker, even if they do have a source, is going to be 100% accurate cos their source may not be high up enough in the industry to know everything.

I would agree that it is best to take all leaks with a grain of salt, but personally I'd put a lot more stock in Nate's word than say Moore's Law is Dead.

And yet. He still gets stuff wrong... Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Making predictions and getting them right is actually relatively easy if you understand a few triggers.

Case in point... On this forum I predicted that NAND and Ram would increase in price a year before it actually happened. How?
Educated guess and seeing market conditions starting to change.

That didn't make me a leaker. That made me a "speculator".

Nate is using a similar tactic, difference with him is that he has specialized in Nintendo platforms, I am specialized in PC hardware.

I find it unlikely that one could guess Direct/reveal dates so consistently based on speculation alone, because there are a LOT of people who try to do this and almost all of them are wrong the majority of the time, yet Nate's hit rate on these remains remarkably high. He's not always right when it comes to leaks, but he's right more often than I'd attribute to luck alone.

I don't think it's that far fetched that he might know somebody who does marketing somewhere and so way gets leads that way, for instance.



curl-6 said:
Pemalite said:

And yet. He still gets stuff wrong... Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Making predictions and getting them right is actually relatively easy if you understand a few triggers.

Case in point... On this forum I predicted that NAND and Ram would increase in price a year before it actually happened. How?
Educated guess and seeing market conditions starting to change.

That didn't make me a leaker. That made me a "speculator".

Nate is using a similar tactic, difference with him is that he has specialized in Nintendo platforms, I am specialized in PC hardware.

I find it unlikely that one could guess Direct/reveal dates so consistently based on speculation alone, because there are a LOT of people who try to do this and almost all of them are wrong the majority of the time, yet Nate's hit rate on these remains remarkably high. He's not always right when it comes to leaks, but he's right more often than I'd attribute to luck alone.

I don't think it's that far fetched that he might know somebody who does marketing somewhere and so way gets leads that way, for instance.

I think you are missing the point. - It doesn't matter how accurate a few predictions are.
It's not even about luck. It's about being educated about the subject matter. Aka. Subject matter expert.
Again... A broken clock is right twice a day.

The fact that he has predicted things incorrectly in the past means that he doesn't have a reliable track record.




www.youtube.com/@Pemalite

Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

I find it unlikely that one could guess Direct/reveal dates so consistently based on speculation alone, because there are a LOT of people who try to do this and almost all of them are wrong the majority of the time, yet Nate's hit rate on these remains remarkably high. He's not always right when it comes to leaks, but he's right more often than I'd attribute to luck alone.

I don't think it's that far fetched that he might know somebody who does marketing somewhere and so way gets leads that way, for instance.

I think you are missing the point. - It doesn't matter how accurate a few predictions are.
It's not even about luck. It's about being educated about the subject matter. Aka. Subject matter expert.
Again... A broken clock is right twice a day.

The fact that he has predicted things incorrectly in the past means that he doesn't have a reliable track record.

I'd say Nate's success rate with video presentation dates goes beyond a broken clock being right twice a day, that might be the case if he got one or two right, but I don't think guesswork alone can plausibly account for him being right about the majority of Direct dates for years, nobody's that good.

Fakers who rely on guesswork and pretend to be leakers like say Nash Weedle have like a 10% success rate, whereas Nate's more like 80-90% for video presentation dates. Whether he knows about games is another matter.

At any rate, we'll just have to wait and see if the next few months show him to be right.



Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

I think he likely has some sort of source as he's been reliably able to call Nintendo Directs days before they happen for a number of years now, and he even leaked the exact day of Switch 2's reveal. The odds of him just happening to guess all that seem low.

Thing is, no leaker, even if they do have a source, is going to be 100% accurate cos their source may not be high up enough in the industry to know everything.

I would agree that it is best to take all leaks with a grain of salt, but personally I'd put a lot more stock in Nate's word than say Moore's Law is Dead.

And yet. He still gets stuff wrong... Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Making predictions and getting them right is actually relatively easy if you understand a few triggers.

Case in point... On this forum I predicted that NAND and Ram would increase in price a year before it actually happened. How?
Educated guess and seeing market conditions starting to change.

That didn't make me a leaker. That made me a "speculator".

Nate is using a similar tactic, difference with him is that he has specialized in Nintendo platforms, I am specialized in PC hardware.

Agreed.  The Pro, WWHD and TPHD were all guaranteed by people in the know....  



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