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JackHandy said:
160rmf said:

And I bet it will be a game changer when we reach that point, right?

Technically, yes. 8-bit, 16-bit, 3D, CD-rom, HD and solid state hard drives... all of it was "game-changing" because it changed the industry.

I just loved your enthusiasm. I can sense that such transition will put the "diminishing returns" narrative to an end. Cant wait to be blown away! 60fps being labeled as garbage? Dynamite material no doubts!



 

 

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160rmf said:
JackHandy said:

Technically, yes. 8-bit, 16-bit, 3D, CD-rom, HD and solid state hard drives... all of it was "game-changing" because it changed the industry.

I just loved your enthusiasm. I can sense that such transition will put the "diminishing returns" narrative to an end. Cant wait to be blown away! 60fps being labeled as garbage? Dynamite material no doubts!

Careful. Your psychology is showing. lol



JackHandy said:

It's confirmation bias. You ignore/downplay the things that create internal conflict, and you embellish/overplay the things (regardless of how few) that fortify your life-choices. We're all susceptible, although very few of us are aware of it when it's happening. And even when you make people aware of it, most of them will confirmation-bias that awareness  right out of their minds before even considering it (usually by using an ad hominem fallacy toward the person who brought it to their attention). It's a real problem.

Right back at you!



 

 

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160rmf said:
JackHandy said:

It's confirmation bias. You ignore/downplay the things that create internal conflict, and you embellish/overplay the things (regardless of how few) that fortify your life-choices. We're all susceptible, although very few of us are aware of it when it's happening. And even when you make people aware of it, most of them will confirmation-bias that awareness  right out of their minds before even considering it (usually by using an ad hominem fallacy toward the person who brought it to their attention). It's a real problem.

Right back at you!

I have multiple platforms and own extensive libraries for them all. You don't, hence your aversion toward the concept that there are better versions of current games that you don't have access to. But instead of realizing this and growing as a person, you wall yourself off, cast hurtful judgments on those who shed light on it and continue repeating the aforementioned, day after day, week after week, and year after year.

In essence, you're trapped in a cycle of hell.

A hell of your own doing.



160rmf said:
JackHandy said:

Technically, yes. 8-bit, 16-bit, 3D, CD-rom, HD and solid state hard drives... all of it was "game-changing" because it changed the industry.

I just loved your enthusiasm. I can sense that such transition will put the "diminishing returns" narrative to an end. Cant wait to be blown away! 60fps being labeled as garbage? Dynamite material no doubts!

As a PC gamer 60 fps is acceptable but very lacking.  120 fps cruches 60 fps and is my default.  Console gamers can keep not caring, but 120 fps will be the next big thing for them, they just dont know it yet.  

It will be funny watching the diminishing returns crowd get super excited about the S2 pro or S3.  

Edit

I also find it dumb when console gamers claim diminishing returns when their hardware cant even do basic ray tracing well, when path tracing is a huge jump.  

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I would gladly take it on Switch without the ray tracing (they can bake lighting). Im sure they will work super hard to get it close to the Series-S version- which it may end up having higher image quality on Switch 2 due to DLSS. Get this to a stable 30, and it's a win for Switch 2.



Otter said:
Wman1996 said:

As arrogant as Nintendo is, I think they care more about GTA VI on Switch 2 than Rockstar does. If GTA VI somehow comes to Switch, I really don't see it happening at launch.
Despite Nintendo's audience and hardware restrictions, I think GTA VI could sell similar on Switch 2 to Xbox Series X/S. Or maybe I'm crazy to think that.

In the short term I'd call you crazy. I think the Xbox version would outsell the Switch by a factor of 4:1 or something like that for first year on market

Long term, Switch 2 will be selling for another 8 years or so, whereas the Xbox Series consoles will be finished in about a year or so. So long term I don't think its as crazy as it sounds. Both I could see ending up around 10 (S2)-12m (XS) LT 


Fair point. Long-term Xbox Series sales for the game could fall a bit below a Switch 2 release but Xbox Series+Xbox Helix combined could likely sell better. 

It's obvious PS5, PC, and PS6 would be the best platforms in terms of sales. 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:
Otter said:

In the short term I'd call you crazy. I think the Xbox version would outsell the Switch by a factor of 4:1 or something like that for first year on market

Long term, Switch 2 will be selling for another 8 years or so, whereas the Xbox Series consoles will be finished in about a year or so. So long term I don't think its as crazy as it sounds. Both I could see ending up around 10 (S2)-12m (XS) LT 


Fair point. Long-term Xbox Series sales for the game could fall a bit below a Switch 2 release but Xbox Series+Xbox Helix combined could likely sell better. 

It's obvious PS5, PC, and PS6 would be the best platforms in terms of sales. 

You mean like how like the latest Resident Evil Switch 2 version is outselling the Xbox version with a much smaller install base?



JackHandy said:
curl-6 said:

Only a minority of nerds online care about games having worse graphics on a hybrid/handheld device, the average customer just doesn't care that that much about graphical performance, look at how popular games like Roblox and Minecraft are with their incredibly basic visuals, and look how far Switch 1 outsold PS4 or Xbox One despite being much less powerful.

I get that, but it's still not good PR. And I can't imagine anyone at any company being okay with it.

Having a very popular game available on your console is good PR.

There was no backlash or scandal to Witcher 3 or Doom 2016 having downgraded Switch 1 versions, the notion that a Switch 2 port of GTA6 would be some kind of "black eye" for Nintendo is ridiculous.