Since we don't have actual numbers I think it's too early to say what this is... With no black Friday deals there is just maybe no pressure to get Switch 2 that week instead getting it the following week, also just because PS5 is doing crazy good this week doesn't mean switch isnt doing great..

What I will say with S2 is that I feel like there was a opportunity missed in it's first year to really establish this as a new generation of Nintendo. At a glance everything looks the same unless you're pixel counting. 

It would have been nice to have ground breaking Pokémon experience realised in a way we've never seen before, A glimpse at a next generation Star Fox adventure... it'd be great if Metroid was built for the ground up and was technical marvel, it'd be great if Mario Kart World dropped the open world gimmick and focused on a sense of speed and spectable we saw in the movie representation of kart racing... It would of been amazing of Ocarina of Time had a Bluepoint style remake which showed us how far Nintendo has come.

Even if not all of that was out before black Friday it would give some much needed hype a system which feels like you're low-key looking at switch 1.5... It's the fastest selling console if all time so clearly none of this is needed but I do think the rush of early adopted may slow notably without them wowing the GP sooner rather than later

Technically all of this will probably come but 1st year just feels a bit meh. I've owned the system since August and I haven't felt the need to buy anything S2 software although will pick up DK and Metroid eventually. 

US deals weren't aggressive. Just $50 lower than it was before August 21. And basically more expensive than the temporary AstroBot bundles earlier this year. I think the masses are buying in great numbers because they're expecting prices to increase even further.

"Aggressive pricing" is not how I would describe the PS5 era lol.

PS5 discounts in the US are in no way aggressive whatsoever. Definitely not steep enough to be outselling a brand new console by 2 to 1.

Its just 100$ off. Infact last black friday discounts for the PS5 were steeper with digital at 375 USD.

PS5 black friday price at 399 USD is literally the same price that the digital edition launched with back in 2020.

Sony has literally matched the launch price of the digital edition and calling it a black friday deal.😂

To those that are trying to downplay the incredible sales numbers of the PS5 in the US better find another reason because those discounts are no where near as big as some are trying to make them out to be.

Well we don't even know if PS5 is up YoY in the USA, like it is in EU. So these might not be extraordinary sales for PS5 that need an explanation. But if I were to offer one I think it'd be the non-existent Xbox. When the only equivalent device isn't having BF promotions and is no longer relevant, you're going to capitalise. Even if the deals weren't much better than we have seen earlier in the year in the USA, people are conditioned there to buy discounted items on BF anyway.

As for potential price rises next year, I don't think the 'masses' in general usually think ahead like that.

What hurts Nintendo the most is lacklustre third party support in combination with lack of big releases from Nintendo. Nintendo isn't giving people any reasons to buy a Switch 2, unless they are hardcore Nintendo fans. PS5 has gotten many big games this year, Arc Raiders, CoD, Battlefield, Yotei, Clair Obscur and many more. DK Bananza failed in being a big tentpole title for Switch 2, only hardcore Nintendo fans care about Donkey Kong.

Dropping Kirby and Metroid late 2025 is just a big nothing burger for consumers which contributes to the tepid Switch 2 sales.

Have you all secured your NEX? I'm afraid it can run out.

Yeah, based on the data you brought on your thread it's pretty clear Playstation does a lot better on November and Nintendo a lot better on December.

The problem for Switch 2 is that PS5 discounts continue all december as well, so why would December not end up the same with total PS5 domination?

It wasn’t needed with Switch 1, that had a way worst antics propaganda (Artificial Scarcity; No more Nintendo big games that could entice the game community in the long run, after Zelda and Mario Kart; The mid gen upgrades from the HD twins will make Switch old news; Smartphones were killing traditional handheld gaming; No AAA 3rd support, etc...)

The answer is to let people get carried away on their desire to see Nintendo failling, they will only make a fool of themselves

Nintendo's lineup next year seems to be incredibly Japan/Weeb heavy: Fire Emblem, Splatoon, Tomodachi life, Rhythm heaven, Pokopia, even Pokemon gen 10 is more appealing in Japan as well. Those titles doesn't seem to solve Nintendo's western problem.