EricHiggin on 08 September 2025
Hardstuck-Platinum said:
EricHiggin said:
Does Dreamcast definitely count as 6th gen? Would it's very early launch and reasons for massive failure come into play? PS2 launches first and starts the gen if Dreamcast doesn't count or PS2 would have launched in the middle otherwise, with GCN and XBOX launching late. So late XB360 launches just 4 years later. Couldn't launching late count as holding back a gen?
The core point is PS2 isn't exactly the powerhouse hardware of 6th gen, by a fair margin, yet look at its massive success. Same thing can be said about the Wii. Both SNY and Nin had the branding and ecosystem to pull it off. The right devices, at the right time, at the right price. Even if this PS6P meant that PS5 gets support the entirety of 10th gen, it won't necessarily be a bad thing overall.
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Dreamcast is definitely 6th gen. There is even a fully working version of GTA3 running on it and that was the game that was revolutionary and defined the PS2 in its early years. Can look up GTA 3 Dreamcast on Youtube if you want.
PS2 isn't a great example. This situation is as if Sony had re-released the PS1 in 2000 alongside a PS1 handheld. It wouldn't have worked because of the competition having much better platforms. This would be slightly different though because PS5 doesn't have any bottlenecks, and there's no competition anymore. Xbox has practically left the market and Nintendo doesn't have a platform powerful enough to take advantage of Sony re-releasing the PS5 in handheld form as the PS6P and a PS vita TV style PS5 and calling it PS6.
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No example is the perfect example because nothing lines up perfectly now vs then, so all we can do is take something similar enough to make the point.
The question is will 10th gen with PS5 range hardware hold things back? The point is no, it won't, because PS2 wasn't the best hardware at the time and it didn't and neither was or did the Wii. Heck even SW1 and SW2 weren't the best handheld hardware and look how they've done.
Everyone knows the most powerful hardware never wins the gen, with PS4 being the exception, simply because while PS4 wasn't some powerhouse, XB1 was pretty weak for 8th gen.
You're correct though in the fact that SNY doesn't need to chase the performance crown any longer, plus doing so in the foreseeable future just isn't a smart idea with the worldwide economy the way it is.
PS1 - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.
PS2 - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.
PS3 - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.
PS4 - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.
PRO -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.
PS5 - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.
PRO -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.