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More left leaning 52 61.90%
 
More right leaning 32 38.10%
 
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I reject the idea that people have to be located somewhere on the Left/right thought spectrum.

I am not left/centre/right.  I am the correct answer for the question in hand.

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First of all despite what crazy people on the internet say,

left-thinking = collectivist thinking & right-thinking = individualistic thinking.

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But plotting yourself on this left/right thought spectrum you have corrupted you're thought process by starting off in a pre-baked thought state.

Don't do this.  Instead apply either left or right thinking as applicable to the question in hand.

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For example:  In dealing with something like road maintance, a left wing approach is best.  We all use the roads, so all of us paying for road maintance in tax money is the best way to deal with that.

But when coming up with legistlation on farmyard health and safety rules, a right wing approach is best.  Let the farmers who work on the farm decide what is best, because the general population has no understanding of farm life.

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In short; don't be left/centre/right.  Be free thinking.



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Ryuu96 said:
Chrkeller said:

Didn't some comedian get arrested yesterday at heathrow because his tweets were mean and rude?

Almost there, now explain the rest of why he got arrested.

Best I can tell his tweets were mean, something about punching somebody in downtown.  I didn't read the article, don't live in the UK, thus don't care.



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The current Labour Government in the UK is centre at best as well, so for anyone upset about Graham Linehan being temporarily detained and taken in for questions over his tweet which incited violence: "“If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls.under the Public Order Act 1986.

Don't worry, because Keith Starmer and Twat Streeting (who is less interested in fixing the NHS and more interested in banging on about culture war nonsense) will soon be rushing out to criticise the cops and tell them they can't arrest people over inciting violence but happily let them waste their time arresting hundreds of anti-Israel protesters who oppose the Palestine Action ban including hundreds of 60+ year olds, the real threats to society, people who want Israel's genocide to stop.

INB4 my house is raided, Lol.

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Chrkeller said:
Ryuu96 said:

Almost there, now explain the rest of why he got arrested.

Best I can tell his tweets were mean, something about punching somebody in downtown.  I didn't read the article, don't live in the UK, thus don't care.

I would be curious as to what the rest of why he got arrested is. Did not see anything other than his tweets mentioned in articles covering the story.

Edit 1: Okay, got it, for inciting violence, because he tweeted to punch men in the balls if found in women spaces. There is no immediate time frame for said violence. At least in the USA this would not count. Don't know if british law is similar in that way. But I would imagine that there are millions of tweets more violent than this every day on twitter. This seems like picking on him in particular. And he is a comedian, therefore it seems extra harmless and everybody should get that. But protecting men from ball punches in women spaces is more important than orvellian government overreach.

Last edited by JuliusHackebeil - on 03 September 2025

Let's look at some achievements made by lefts (from the perspective of a first world country):

Work related:

  • worker's unions -> labor rights -> less exploitation
  • health and safety measures
  • maximum work hour limitations
  • minimum wages
  • a bunch of holidays
  • the weekend
  • no more slaves and child workers

Social security:

  • financial support after losing a job
  • financial support for low-income households
  • financial support for medication, drugs and hospitalisation
  • financial support after retirement

Other:

  • freedom of speech -> the ability to critize the current leaders without fear of repercussions
  • free schools and kindergartens
  • free or cheap public transportation
  • maximum tresholds for an appartment's rent
  • cheap loans for college students
  • high food standards


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JuliusHackebeil said:
Chrkeller said:

Best I can tell his tweets were mean, something about punching somebody in downtown.  I didn't read the article, don't live in the UK, thus don't care.

I would be curious as to what the rest of why he got arrested is. Did not see anything other than his tweets mentioned in articles covering the story.

Same here.  His tweets were stupid, childish and uncalled for....  but being arrested seems a bit extreme.  I get the idea of policing social media, but good luck.  Not to mention who gets to make the decision what is acceptable and what isn't.  Whomever holds that power has a whole bunch of power.    



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Funny story: Some years ago Berlin decided to slow down the speed limit in like forty streets across the whole city from 50km/h to 30km/h. The aim was to achieve less air pollution and less accidents.

Fast forward: the new government puts the limit on half of these streets back up to 50km/h. The given reason was yes, the air became noticably cleaner, and yes, the roads became much safer. So all in all everyone is happy, the goals were reached, therefore let's go back to normal again.

Please, guess the political stance.



Chrkeller said:
Ryuu96 said:

Almost there, now explain the rest of why he got arrested.

Best I can tell his tweets were mean, something about punching somebody in downtown.  I didn't read the article, don't live in the UK, thus don't care.

If you didn't read the article, and don't care, and barely know what was said, why would you post it so nonchalantly as a rebuttal to another user? Lol. He was arrested for inciting violence, the encouragement for violence is right there in the tweet where he tells people to punch trans people in the balls, the acts aren't new, he would have been arrested under the Public Order Act 1986 and Serious Crime Act 2007.

Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he -

  • (a) uses towards another person threatening behaviour, or
  • (b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening

with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person, or to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another, or whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked.

The Serious Crime Act 2007 replaced the common law crime of incitement with a statutory offence of encouraging or assisting crime. Intentionally encouraging or assisting an offence.

No matter what you think about trans people, telling people to go around and punch them in the balls is encouraging a violent, illegal act, because it is not legal to simply go around and punch people in the balls. Leave them the fuck alone, bullying is up against LGBTQ+ in the UK, trans people are being treated like shit recently in the UK, bigots are feeling more emboldened to be violent against them, Graham knows full well what he is doing, he isn't an idiot, he like JK Rowling has bene utterly unhinged about trans people for years now.



Ryuu96 said:
Chrkeller said:

Best I can tell his tweets were mean, something about punching somebody in downtown.  I didn't read the article, don't live in the UK, thus don't care.

If you didn't read the article, and don't care, and barely know what was said, why would you post it so nonchalantly as a rebuttal to another user? Lol. He was arrested for inciting violence, the encouragement for violence is right there in the tweet where he tells people to punch trans people in the balls, the acts aren't new, he would have been arrested under the Public Order Act 1986 and Serious Crime Act 2007.

Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he -

  • (a) uses towards another person threatening behaviour, or
  • (b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening

with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person, or to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another, or whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked.

The Serious Crime Act 2007 replaced the common law crime of incitement with a statutory offence of encouraging or assisting crime. Intentionally encouraging or assisting an offence.

No matter what you think about trans people, telling people to go around and punch them in the balls is encouraging a violent, illegal act, because it is not legal to simply go around and punch people in the balls. Leave them the fuck alone, bullying is up against LGBTQ+ in the UK, trans people are being treated like shit recently in the UK, bigots are feeling more emboldened to be violent against them, Graham knows full well what he is doing, he isn't an idiot, he like JK Rowling has bene utterly unhinged about trans people for years now.

I didn't.  I posed it as a question, not a rebuttal.  Learn to read?



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Chrkeller said:
JuliusHackebeil said:

I would be curious as to what the rest of why he got arrested is. Did not see anything other than his tweets mentioned in articles covering the story.

Same here.  His tweets were stupid, childish and uncalled for....  but being arrested seems a bit extreme.  I get the idea of policing social media, but good luck.  Not to mention who gets to make the decision what is acceptable and what isn't.  Whomever holds that power has a whole bunch of power.    

Relax. It's not like he was thrown into a supermax prison, he was temporarily detained and taken in for questioning about his tweets, he is already out and the police will decide whether to press charges against him, given the government is already crying I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happens. You're acting like he was thrown into an American prison, Lol.

Also, inciting violence is fairly obvious, I know you aren't this clueless Chrkeller. He blatantly called for violence against other civilians of the UK, based on pure nonsensical penis speculation, “If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls.

You can't go around punching people in the balls in the UK and it shouldn't be encouraged. He is clear as day encouraging people to commit assault.