There are plenty of conservatives that do not have a lot of money or power those people are the bootlickers for the one percent.

Would you describe that as worker self-management, perchance?

By the way, throughout history, almost all farmland was rented or owned by absent landlords. Even today 40-50% of farmland in the US and Europe is rented, and a majority of the remainder is part-owner operated. It was and still is much worse in the Third World.

These are hardly (on average) the sort of people that are acquainted with farm life or care much about health and safety rules, though their capacity for whining and demanding handouts and loans is more than evident...

I am happy with debates, but I do not like being purposely mischaracterized.  I will use the example again. I asked a question, without quoting anybody.  Your position was I took a rebuttal an argued a position.  That is flatly and factually false.  It isn't being debated, it is how the debate plays out.   

I am more than happy to debate Zorg.  He doesn't put words in my mouth.  He doesn't purposely claim I said stuff I did not. 

It isn't the debate, it is how it is debated.  If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you, I really don't.  

Before I had kids, I was on the right. Now that I have kids, I am on the far right.

It's a lot to address someone who has intelligence and is making claims, than someone who is just being insulting or throwing out threats.  

Last week, I commented on a facebook post about climate change - someone arguing that city people are chastising country people, despite living less sustainably. I just had posted that it shouldn't be country vs city, we should be looking at it as problem vs solution.  

A couple of people just told me that I'm dumb.

There was 1 reply about how we should kill off the liberal cities. 

And for those I pretty much just posted a one liner.  "Hey I'm just trying my best", "genocide is wrong, hope you know that".  

I think it's hard to do much more than that, especially if you're not that familiar with someone and you have no idea where they stand.  

Most of us were picked as mods, because we're active posters. Taking conversations to walls or PMs, is a pretty common way to get conversations out of threads. 

It's particularly common in a lot of websites that mod conversations happen in chats in the first place. A lot of places even explicitly have rules that these things have to be done in private chats. 

I'm more like at the center. On some things I support the left more and on some things the right. Also, the local and global economic situation effect my view on different policies.

I consider myself to be more left leaning.  I believe that health care should be free.  I believe that the enviorment should be protected and respected.  I believe in higher education and the pursit of understanding through vigious scientific investigation.  I don't believe that religion should be a part of government.  I believe that the biggest stressor for like 90%+ of people is that wages have not gone up with the cost of living and I believe that corporation greed needs to be reigned in.  I believe in diversity as a strength.  I think that AI is dangerous and that individual privacy is at an all time low and need to be restored.  I think that the the think that holds us back as a society is the persistant culture war that is used to distract us from issues that really need addressing.  I believe that the entire monetary ssystem is flawed and needs to be completely overhauled.  I believe that people in the top 10% of earners should be taxed more heavily.  I beleive that scarcity is largely manufactured and that we as a species are sophisticated enough to develop agile solutions.  

I know I already said this but I believe that education is paramount. 

I think that the things that I listed are really not limited to left or right.  

The way you phrased, Curl, it seemed like you were defending equality. But were you actually defending it or you meant equity?

On the picture on the left, they are all being treated equally, but this doesn't help the one in need. On the right image, the three kids were not treated equally but they can do what they wanna do, they are happy. On the right image we have equality and on the equity.  

Left.

1. Governments should look after their people's needs and this should not be left to corporate entities or survival of the fittest.

2. Governments should respect individuality and encourage tolerance of those that don't always fit the typical mold/majority.

3. Science, research and expert understanding should govern health policy, education and be the primary informer of what behaviours/habits we shouldn't tolerate in society.

Should be the opposite since the The far right are destroying the planet and the national debt that your kids, eventual grand kids, and great grand kids will eventually have to pay.  You're also teaching your kids that you would rather have a convicted felon, a sexual assaulter, and more than likely something far far worse on Epstein island in office.