Do you consider yourself more left or right wing?

[Chrkeller]

Ryuu96 said:

Chrkeller said:

I told you to read because you falsely accused me of rebutting someone with argument.  Facts: I didn't quote anyone, and I asked a question.  I literally did not make a statement.    

The issue, IMHO, you put a lot of words in my mouth, most of which are not true.  

And I left last time because I had you nailing my wall, Pi hitting me up in chat and a third mod hitting me when I was posting + in chat.  As far as I am concerned, there is no way to spin 3 mods being up my ***.  It wasn't appropriate, and I think you know it.   

I do not agree with you that it wasn't appropriate, I don't think we shouldn't be allowed to debate with users just because we're Mods and have to wait our turn to have an input, Pi-Guy wasn't acting in a Mod capacity against you at all, he was having a debate with you, I don't know who that 3rd Mod was or what that chat was, (PM?) and the only reason I posted on your wall was because I wanted to take the off-topic discussion out of the thread. Not once were you moderated or even warned of moderation IIRC.

Your last moderation was in 2020 by CGI-Quality and it seems that was about some Mod disagreement which resulted in a threat to leave the site so it's not like it's not a trend with yourself to threaten to leave or straight up leaving.

Mod Note in 2020: (You're free to leave if you want, you're free to remain if you want. You're even free to disagree with a moderation. BUT, mods nor users will take abuse from you in the forums, in PMs, nor on Walls. You have a problem with self control. Your mod history shows that and all recent dealings with you tell me that. So, the Warning against you was obviously well placed, and if this is what we can expect from you, then yes, stay gone!)

I think your issue is that you see us only as Mods and maybe have a problem with authority figures, you've threatened to leave the site once based on a previous disagreement with moderation, you actually followed up with your threat last year to leave the site due to a disagreement with a Mod, but to be clear, disagreements with users who happen to be Mods, not a disagreement with a Mod decision.

Since I'm debating with you now, does that mean that anyone else who disagrees with you who is also a Mod isn't allowed to respond to you? It should make no difference whether we're Mods or not, unless we're acting on official Mod business. We're also still USERS who agree or disagree with other users. If you can't make that distinction then it is a you problem. I think it's pretty obvious when I'm debating as a user and when I'm smacking someone down as a Mod, Lol. I think it's obvious with other Mods too.

Surely you see the awkward situation you're putting us in as well? Debate with you too much and you leave, take the off-topic conversation to your wall and you complain, take it to PM and you will complain, if we continue it here we're dragging the thread off-topic. So the only option you're giving us is that we're apparently meant to shut up whilst you make accusations about the Mod team such as us "being inappropriate" which is also what happened last go around. You're being impossible man. Just move on, Lol.

I am happy with debates, but I do not like being purposely mischaracterized.  I will use the example again. I asked a question, without quoting anybody.  Your position was I took a rebuttal an argued a position.  That is flatly and factually false.  It isn't being debated, it is how the debate plays out.   

I am more than happy to debate Zorg.  He doesn't put words in my mouth.  He doesn't purposely claim I said stuff I did not. 

It isn't the debate, it is how it is debated.  If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you, I really don't.