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Vodacixi said:

You can always count on Patcher's predictions for a good laugh:

https://mynintendonews.com/2014/09/06/pachter-believes-nintendo-will-abandon-hardware-and-will-go-third-party-next-gen/

As one poster here once said, if Pachter predicted that the poster would live a long life, he'd go out and spend his life's savings on hookers and blow because he would assume that he was dying. 



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LegitHyperbole said:

Can we remake this thread but we all make predictions and look back on them in time to see if they become Hilariously wrong or not. Many will laugh but I predict the Switch 2 to be a Wii U sort of deal, not as bad, Nintendo will make their money and they still have 150+ million switches to sell games on. They aren't loosing much in this as they can still sell Switch 1s cause the Switch 2 is simply a PRO console for all intents, they have designed it so they can't fail even if it fails despite the "2" in the name. I predict less than 40 million LT, I wanna say 30 million but I'll be cut it down the middle at go 35 million. It'll sell right out the gate like the Wii U and get over 20 million fairly fast but given all the conditions It'll slow and then It'll slow to a crawl. Parent will not buy this thing, Kids will still be on Switch 1. We will not see hardware price reduction in the lifetime of this system or at least the vast majority of it, we'll be lucky if the price does not go up and it just might. That said, Switches will still sell.

So correct me if I am wrong, but are you essentially saying it will sell well for a couple years then sales will fall off a cliff leading to max 40 M sold lifetime?



RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I said for "an intents", shortening all intents and purposes and right after explained what I mean, if it's going great to be read out of context I would say it will eventaully cement itself as a pro console for all intents and and purposes when everything is said and done by the way they have set it up so it can be either. One quote was "Buy a Switch, we have that if you can't afford a Switch 2" or something along those lines, not exactly the mark of a confident successor.

Nintendo is obviously not setting it up as a pro console. It's called the "Switch 2" and it has a giant ass 2 on its logo. Hell, it's the first time they used numbers like this for a console.

It's also getting the next Mario Kart as a exclusive day one and MK8 DX was the best selling Switch 1 game.

Not to mention it's a huge graphical and technical leap. Probably even bigger than going from PS3 to PS4.

They couldn't be more clear: it's the Switch successor.

Not to mention the Switch 2 BC is not hardware but software like PS5 for PS4 and Series X for Xbox One. Can't be a pro version of the same thing if the architecture is so different it's not even truly native BC.



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super_etecoon said:
JackHandy said:

I remember most of us laughing our asses off when Nintendo unveiled the Wii for the first time. We were like, okay, so you fail miserably with the Gamecube, and your answer is this nonsense? Are you kidding? We were all but certain this would be the end of the company.

Then we saw all the people stampeding over each other to play it at that years E3 and... well... crow meet mouth.

I also believe there were more than a fair share of people predicting the DS's demise because Sony had entered the picture with what seemed to be the PS1 situation all over again (better tech, disc-based media etc). That didn't work out so well, either. Although in the end, the PSP did finish respectably.

I absolutely was not in this camp. Actually, the only reason I’m here at VGC was that I was convinced the Revolution, later the Wii, was going to do well and I wanted to find a place that tracked the numbers. I actually don’t remember that many naysayers around here at the time. 

You should have gone over to Gamewinners forums, then. It was a whole different ballgame over there lol.



The_Yoda said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Can we remake this thread but we all make predictions and look back on them in time to see if they become Hilariously wrong or not. Many will laugh but I predict the Switch 2 to be a Wii U sort of deal, not as bad, Nintendo will make their money and they still have 150+ million switches to sell games on. They aren't loosing much in this as they can still sell Switch 1s cause the Switch 2 is simply a PRO console for all intents, they have designed it so they can't fail even if it fails despite the "2" in the name. I predict less than 40 million LT, I wanna say 30 million but I'll be cut it down the middle at go 35 million. It'll sell right out the gate like the Wii U and get over 20 million fairly fast but given all the conditions It'll slow and then It'll slow to a crawl. Parent will not buy this thing, Kids will still be on Switch 1. We will not see hardware price reduction in the lifetime of this system or at least the vast majority of it, we'll be lucky if the price does not go up and it just might. That said, Switches will still sell.

So correct me if I am wrong, but are you essentially saying it will sell well for a couple years then sales will fall off a cliff leading to max 40 M sold lifetime?

Yep. Wii U 2.0. Though I said they'll slow and then slow to a crawl. If I were being very optimistic a kinda m 3DS style situation. Probably somewhere between those two,m, likely but I'm gonna stick with 35million cause if I get it right it's really against the grain of thinking on this forum. 



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RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I said for "an intents", shortening all intents and purposes and right after explained what I mean, if it's going great to be read out of context I would say it will eventaully cement itself as a pro console for all intents and and purposes when everything is said and done by the way they have set it up so it can be either. One quote was "Buy a Switch, we have that if you can't afford a Switch 2" or something along those lines, not exactly the mark of a confident successor.

Nintendo is obviously not setting it up as a pro console. It's called the "Switch 2" and it has a giant ass 2 on its logo. Hell, it's the first time they used numbers like this for a console.

It's also getting the next Mario Kart as a exclusive day one and MK8 DX was the best selling Switch 1 game.

Not to mention it's a huge graphical and technical leap. Probably even bigger than going from PS3 to PS4.

They couldn't be more clear: it's the Switch successor.

If you look at the design of the thing it is essential a PRO console with added features. 3DS is the most similar thing but Sony could add mouse control or new haptics to the PS5 PRO, add in two or three exvlusives and call it PS5 2 and it would be the exact same thing. Even the UI is the same or to think more easily about it the ps4 which actually had the same purpose of reaching 4k or something close to it. 

What I'm saying is, if th8s fails their thinking is to lean back in the Switch, they can go ahead with it as a successor if it gains traction. Just don't be surprised when Nintendo create the longest cross gen period every seen in console gaming as an inbetween and Switch 2 exclusive end up on the Switch. MK World is just a Switch game that is ported up, they have said as much. 

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JackHandy said:
super_etecoon said:

I absolutely was not in this camp. Actually, the only reason I’m here at VGC was that I was convinced the Revolution, later the Wii, was going to do well and I wanted to find a place that tracked the numbers. I actually don’t remember that many naysayers around here at the time. 

You should have gone over to Gamewinners forums, then. It was a whole different ballgame over there lol.

I’ve never even heard of that website. 



LegitHyperbole said:
RedKingXIII said:

Nintendo is obviously not setting it up as a pro console. It's called the "Switch 2" and it has a giant ass 2 on its logo. Hell, it's the first time they used numbers like this for a console.

It's also getting the next Mario Kart as a exclusive day one and MK8 DX was the best selling Switch 1 game.

Not to mention it's a huge graphical and technical leap. Probably even bigger than going from PS3 to PS4.

They couldn't be more clear: it's the Switch successor.

If you look at the design of the thing it is essential a PRO console with added features. 3DS is the most similar thing but Sony could add mouse control or new haptics to the PS5 PRO, add in two or three exvlusives and call it PS5 2 and it would be the exact same thing. Even the UI is the same or to think more easily about it the ps4 which actually had the same purpose of reaching 4k or something close to it. 

What I'm saying is, if th8s fails their thinking is to lean back in the Switch, they can go ahead with it as a successor if it gains traction. Just don't be surprised when Nintendo create the longest cross gen period every seen in console gaming as an inbetween and Switch 2 exclusive end up on the Switch. MK World is just a Switch game that is ported up, they have said as much. 

"If you look at the design of the thing it is essential a PRO console with added features."

The 3DS looks a lot like the DS, but it's not a DS Pro.
The PS Vita looks a lot like the PSP, but it's not a PSP Pro.

This even happened with a home console:

The Series S looks a lot like the Xbox One S, but it's not a Xbox One S Pro.

"3DS is the most similar thing but Sony could add mouse control or new haptics to the PS5 PRO, add in two or three exvlusives and call it PS5 2 and it would be the exact same thing. Even the UI is the same or to think more easily about it the ps4 which actually had the same purpose of reaching 4k or something close to it."

lol no

A PS5 Pro is still a PS5. It plays the same games and it's impossible for you to make a PS5 Pro exclusive. The Switch 2 already has exclusives from the get-go.

I believe both the Xbox One and Series X have the same UI. The Series X is still the XB1 successor. The PS3 and PSP also shared the XMB interface, yet they were distinct consoles.

"What I'm saying is, if th8s fails their thinking is to lean back in the Switch, they can go ahead with it as a successor if it gains traction."

They didn't lean back to the Wii or the DS when the Wii U died in 2013 and the 3DS struggled early on. These two were also direct successors in the same vein as the Switch 2. This isn't happening.

"Just don't be surprised when Nintendo create the longest cross gen period every seen in console gaming as an inbetween and Switch 2 exclusive end up on the Switch. MK World is just a Switch game that is ported up, they have said as much."

I do think there'll be a long cross gen period but only for smaller games, ports/remasters, and indies. The big games will be Switch 2 exclusives, and this already started with Mario Kart at launch.

Mario Kart World is a full blown Switch 2 game that began development as a Switch 1 game, not a Switch 1 game ported up.

I just can't believe I'm even discussing this. Nothing you've said has any basis in reality.



 

RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

If you look at the design of the thing it is essential a PRO console with added features. 3DS is the most similar thing but Sony could add mouse control or new haptics to the PS5 PRO, add in two or three exvlusives and call it PS5 2 and it would be the exact same thing. Even the UI is the same or to think more easily about it the ps4 which actually had the same purpose of reaching 4k or something close to it. 

What I'm saying is, if th8s fails their thinking is to lean back in the Switch, they can go ahead with it as a successor if it gains traction. Just don't be surprised when Nintendo create the longest cross gen period every seen in console gaming as an inbetween and Switch 2 exclusive end up on the Switch. MK World is just a Switch game that is ported up, they have said as much. 

"If you look at the design of the thing it is essential a PRO console with added features."

The 3DS looks a lot like the DS, but it's not a DS Pro.
The PS Vita looks a lot like the PSP, but it's not a PSP Pro.

This even happened with a home console:

The Series S looks a lot like the Xbox One S, but it's not a Xbox One S Pro.

"3DS is the most similar thing but Sony could add mouse control or new haptics to the PS5 PRO, add in two or three exvlusives and call it PS5 2 and it would be the exact same thing. Even the UI is the same or to think more easily about it the ps4 which actually had the same purpose of reaching 4k or something close to it."

lol no

A PS5 Pro is still a PS5. It plays the same games and it's impossible for you to make a PS5 Pro exclusive. The Switch 2 already has exclusives from the get-go.

I believe both the Xbox One and Series X have the same UI. The Series X is still the XB1 successor. The PS3 and PSP also shared the XMB interface, yet they were distinct consoles.

"What I'm saying is, if th8s fails their thinking is to lean back in the Switch, they can go ahead with it as a successor if it gains traction."

They didn't lean back to the Wii or the DS when the Wii U died in 2013 and the 3DS struggled early on. These two were also direct successors in the same vein as the Switch 2. This isn't happening.

"Just don't be surprised when Nintendo create the longest cross gen period every seen in console gaming as an inbetween and Switch 2 exclusive end up on the Switch. MK World is just a Switch game that is ported up, they have said as much."

I do think there'll be a long cross gen period but only for smaller games, ports/remasters, and indies. The big games will be Switch 2 exclusives, and this already started with Mario Kart at launch.

Mario Kart World is a full blown Switch 2 game that began development as a Switch 1 game, not a Switch 1 game ported up.

I just can't believe I'm even discussing this. Nothing you've said has any basis in reality.

So essentially they have completely fucked themselves and if this fails they have to completely reorganise the company again. If it fails what are they going to do? It's not like they are hurting for money and they can get through it but if their now handheld and combined console fail...what exactly does that look like? If the economy is stagnant then people will stay on the Switch, this isn't back then this is a new scenario of things that are completely stacked against them for any move forward if it fails or underperforms to leaning back on the Switch, maybe they didn't realise that at the point of the Switch 2's conception and if they didn't figure it out half way they had to have read the signs in the last year or two... or perhaps not, maybe they only figured it out as Trump made moves. Idk, I just see indecision in the Switch 2... or maybe that's an industry wide thing, improve on what's good and don't stir things up. 

...still, I see decisions in the Switch 2 of not knowing what direction to go at some point in it's development, images of suits scratching their heads come to mind when I view it broadly now. 



My worst prediction was the 3DS, I thought it was going to be at least twice as popular as it ended up being. I didn't have a prediction on the Vita, but I probably would have assumed it would be much more popular than it was.



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