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Darwinianevolution said:
KLXVER said:

Well Im just talking about piracy of games. I dont think they should have the right to brick your console over something thats not illegal.

Even in that case, you still paid for the console, you cannot just pirate a console from thin air. You still bought the thing, and the idea they can just take it away is ludicrous. This applies to whatever software you purchased, you still bought it, so you should have access to it. Nintendo is not going to refund you your games if they ban your account.

Why is this a concern now? Why arent people complaining about hackers losing their PCs? or traffic violators losing their driving liscense? I mean they paid for it, so they own them, right?



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FlashmanHarry said:

I would imagine it's tied to the high bandwidth needs of the new carts. I'd imagine different sizes will be made available sometime in the future. How long it'll take nintendo though is anyone's guess.

Agreed. Game Card sizes will almost certainly increase as the generation progresses. This has occurred in every generation since Game Cards replaced cartridges and disks.

But I think it's noteworthy to consider... 64GB? That is a huge number. That is larger than the entire Witcher 3 Complete (all expansions) + Xenoblade Chronicles X DE, and Breath of the Wild with all DLC combined.



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KLXVER said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Even in that case, you still paid for the console, you cannot just pirate a console from thin air. You still bought the thing, and the idea they can just take it away is ludicrous. This applies to whatever software you purchased, you still bought it, so you should have access to it. Nintendo is not going to refund you your games if they ban your account.

Why is this a concern now? Why arent people complaining about hackers losing their PCs? or traffic violators losing their driving liscense? I mean they paid for it, so they own them, right?

Hackers do not get their computers taken away, they still own them, they are just punished by the law according to whatever they did. And Traffic offenders do not get their vehicles taken away, they still own them, they are just not allowed to drive. At most they'll get them forcibly moved to the car deposit until the issue is solved, but they still own the vehicle. Oranges and apples.



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Jumpin said:
FlashmanHarry said:

I would imagine it's tied to the high bandwidth needs of the new carts. I'd imagine different sizes will be made available sometime in the future. How long it'll take nintendo though is anyone's guess.

Agreed. Game Card sizes will almost certainly increase as the generation progresses. This has occurred in every generation since Game Cards replaced cartridges and disks.

But I think it's noteworthy to consider... 64GB? That is a huge number. That is larger than the entire Witcher 3 Complete (all expansions) + Xenoblade Chronicles X DE, and Breath of the Wild with all DLC combined.

I actually doubt it. 128GB might be eventually made available a few years down the line but I bet it will be extremely limited. 

Even Nintendo I think will eventually start shipping Game Key cards for games that really need more than 64GB (though for Nintendo's use case I doubt it will be many games at all).

3rd parties are just going to ship Game Key cards for the most part. 

Physical game sales on the Switch 2 are going to become a small minority of the total sales, just is what it is. PS6 probably won't even have physical games period. It's over for physical games. 

More than likely even if there is like a Nintendo game that requires more than 64GB (which will be like 1-2 games this gen maybe max), you'll just be asked to download the extra data rather than there being a need for a larger cartridge. 



Darwinianevolution said:
KLXVER said:

Why is this a concern now? Why arent people complaining about hackers losing their PCs? or traffic violators losing their driving liscense? I mean they paid for it, so they own them, right?

Hackers do not get their computers taken away, they still own them, they are just punished by the law according to whatever they did. And Traffic offenders do not get their vehicles taken away, they still own them, they are just not allowed to drive. At most they'll get them forcibly moved to the car deposit until the issue is solved, but they still own the vehicle. Oranges and apples.

You still own your console. Youre just not allowed to use it.



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Otter said:

This explains why so many devs are moving to game keys... Still I think all big publishers like SE should be able to bite that bullet.

An unfortunate situation but a reality of catridges. Could a solution not be found where the game is in fact fully present on a cheap high storage catridge but needs to be played/transferred to the systems internal memory? Realistically though I think 99% of their audience is completely fine with the game key method.

I find it interesting that here we are in 2025, and we're seeing the same sort of thing happen that happened to the N64. A Nintendo console being hamstrung by its adherence to cartridges. Crazy.



KLXVER said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Hackers do not get their computers taken away, they still own them, they are just punished by the law according to whatever they did. And Traffic offenders do not get their vehicles taken away, they still own them, they are just not allowed to drive. At most they'll get them forcibly moved to the car deposit until the issue is solved, but they still own the vehicle. Oranges and apples.

You still own your console. Youre just not allowed to use it.

Yeah, and now they just bricked an item I own. You cannot just take a thing I own and wreck it, turning my legal purchase into a dead brick.



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JackHandy said:
Otter said:

This explains why so many devs are moving to game keys... Still I think all big publishers like SE should be able to bite that bullet.

An unfortunate situation but a reality of catridges. Could a solution not be found where the game is in fact fully present on a cheap high storage catridge but needs to be played/transferred to the systems internal memory? Realistically though I think 99% of their audience is completely fine with the game key method.

I find it interesting that here we are in 2025, and we're seeing the same sort of thing happen that happened to the N64. A Nintendo console being hamstrung by its adherence to cartridges. Crazy.

This is nothing like the N64. 

I WISH we had freaking digital download options in the N64 it would've made the system 100x better. N64 carts cost like $30 all-in, Switch 2 carts are maybe $8, the cost isn't close.  

Physical games are just not feasible in the modern industry, when you can have a digital copy that is free of any shipping/packaging + retailer cut fee that alone right there is like $15 cheaper. 

Physical games don't make sense in 2025, that's all there is to it. The Switch 2 cartridges are likely not that expensive, but why even bother giving away another $8 of your profit margin plus the packaging cost plus shipping cost plus retail cut cost as well. It doesn't make sense. 

If high speed internet and mass storage was a thing back in the day, game key cards would've been a GODSEND for the N64. It would've opened the door to $49.99 games + a bunch of games like Resident Evil 3, Metal Gear Solid, etc. etc. would've likely have been possible on the system with no fuss. I wish we have Game Key Cards and digital downloads an option back in the late 90s, it would've given the N64 way better games at a much more affordable cost. 



Soundwave said:
Jumpin said:

Agreed. Game Card sizes will almost certainly increase as the generation progresses. This has occurred in every generation since Game Cards replaced cartridges and disks.

But I think it's noteworthy to consider... 64GB? That is a huge number. That is larger than the entire Witcher 3 Complete (all expansions) + Xenoblade Chronicles X DE, and Breath of the Wild with all DLC combined.

I actually doubt it. 128GB might be eventually made available a few years down the line but I bet it will be extremely limited. 

Even Nintendo I think will eventually start shipping Game Key cards for games that really need more than 64GB (though for Nintendo's use case I doubt it will be many games at all).

3rd parties are just going to ship Game Key cards for the most part. 

Physical game sales on the Switch 2 are going to become a small minority of the total sales, just is what it is. PS6 probably won't even have physical games period. It's over for physical games. 

More than likely even if there is like a Nintendo game that requires more than 64GB (which will be like 1-2 games this gen maybe max), you'll just be asked to download the extra data rather than there being a need for a larger cartridge. 

You're probably correct there.

But, I should note that I'm actually pro-digital. But, the Virtual Game Cards update on Switch is proof that better regulation is necessary against these sorts of anti-consumer updates - which really fucked me over.



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Darwinianevolution said:
KLXVER said:

You still own your console. Youre just not allowed to use it.

Yeah, and now they just bricked an item I own. You cannot just take a thing I own and wreck it, turning my legal purchase into a dead brick.

Well you used it to do something illegal. I dont know, thats just such a basic thing for me. If you use something you own to do something illegal, theres a chance you will lose that thing. Doesnt really matter how much money you spent on it or the many legal thing you did with it.