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TomaTito said:

As a side note, what happend to Jim Sterling?

He transitioned 



 

 

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G2ThaUNiT said:

There's this weird 2 way mindset with gamers where you have one side, those arguing about whether a game costs too much.

Then on the other side, there are gamers who mindlessly spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on a single game.

I was talking to a group of friends after the Direct and they were saying how Nintendo has lost their minds charging $80 for MK World, and then I reminded each of them that they all spent $300 each on heirlooms in Apex Legends. FOR ONE FUCKING CHARACTER!! And they had a model to where that was all they spent instead of $400

I got on to them asking how Apex Legends is worth $300 (in reality they've actually spent a lot more) yet Mario Kart World isn't worth $80?

I guess these friends of yours would have been happy for Nintendo to release the game for $40 with 20 tracks, charge $5 each for additional tracks and $1 per kart mods.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
G2ThaUNiT said:

There's this weird 2 way mindset with gamers where you have one side, those arguing about whether a game costs too much.

Then on the other side, there are gamers who mindlessly spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on a single game.

I was talking to a group of friends after the Direct and they were saying how Nintendo has lost their minds charging $80 for MK World, and then I reminded each of them that they all spent $300 each on heirlooms in Apex Legends. FOR ONE FUCKING CHARACTER!! And they had a model to where that was all they spent instead of $400

I got on to them asking how Apex Legends is worth $300 (in reality they've actually spent a lot more) yet Mario Kart World isn't worth $80?

I guess these friends of yours would have been happy for Nintendo to release the game for $40 with 20 tracks, charge $5 each for additional tracks and $1 per kart mods.

Mario Kart 8 delux launched with 48 tracks (@59.99$), and now upto 96 with the booster pass dlc (~24$).
Mario Kart World is launching with 32 tracks, at 80$.

Yeah base game for 40$ would have been much better, even with potentially slightly fewer tracks.



SvennoJ said:
CaptainExplosion said:

All else I can say on the matter is wages need to be raised to combat inflation, and I wouldn't be surprised if much of today's inflation is Russia's fault. Nothing good has come out of Russia since the release of Tetris.

Anyway inflation is a tool of the mega rich, keep those pesky wage costs down giving smaller pay raises than price hikes due to inflation.

Wage increases in Germany (and probably many other European countries) are pretty close to inflation...
even slightly above inflation for people with lower income.

From 2017 to 2025, we had an inflation of 25.58 %.

I looked up the biggest collective bargining agreement in Germany, the "TvÖD" (collective agreement for the public service) which is relevant for millions of people and a pattern for similar agreements in other sectors. It is also very transparent comparing to other sectors.

I checked the salary increases for experience level 2 (which is reached very fast) and experience level 5 (which is usually reached after 10 years).

The lower income brackets (f.e. cleaning staff + janitors in schools / town halls) had salary increases since 2017 of 30 - 35 %.
The highest income brackets (f.e. deputy mayors in midsized towns + heads of departments) had salary increases since 2017 of 23 - 26 %:



Cobretti2 said:
TomaTito said:

As a side note, what happend to Jim Sterling?

He transitioned 

But is still a fat piece of shit.



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Well, this happened sooner than I thought and we didn't have to wait till next gen.
Due to this I had to change the title of the thread from "Gen 10 Edition" to "in 2025".

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464586/microsoft-raises-the-price-of-xbox-consoles-games-and-accessories/

As the link states, Microsoft has followed suit and increased the prices in its whole range.
Xbox will have $80 games and price hikes on consoles and accessories.

Makes you wonder when Sony will come around and face the tariffs.



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TomaTito said:

Well, this happened sooner than I thought and we didn't have to wait till next gen.
Due to this I had to change the title of the thread from "Gen 10 Edition" to "in 2025".

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464586/microsoft-raises-the-price-of-xbox-consoles-games-and-accessories/

As the link states, Microsoft has followed suit and increased the prices in its whole range.
Xbox will have $80 games and price hikes on consoles and accessories.

Makes you wonder when Sony will come around and face the tariffs.

We certainly know what GTA 6's minimum asking price will be now lol. I wonder how quickly before other publishers will start to follow suit.



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G2ThaUNiT said:

We certainly know what GTA 6's minimum asking price will be now lol. I wonder how quickly before other publishers will start to follow suit.

$100 is fair for GTA6



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TomaTito said:
G2ThaUNiT said:

We certainly know what GTA 6's minimum asking price will be now lol. I wonder how quickly before other publishers will start to follow suit.

$100 is fair for GTA6



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Games should be no more than 60 euro, I don't care about inflation, cost of living or if my income doubles. 69,99 is that boundary in the head where even a cent more is too much but 60 euro is the price point where it feels just right. This is for AAA games, 40 or 50 for AA game and indies are way overvaluing themselves quite often some as high as 30 euro like Void Bastards. Nonsense. Clair Obscur E33 is the only game I have felt good about buying at full price in a long time. Oblivion remaster too, I didn't feel bad purchasing it even though I'm not actively playing it, I'm glad I helped be apart of helping lock in big sales numbers for these games so the math works out better against 80-90 euro subpar sellers and tell the industry they don't need to spend so big on games, tighten the teams, make more games more often, diversify and reach into niches and hope for the best with new ideas. Try not to make all the kiney in the world and take a better slice of the pie in the end.