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Is the Switch 2 in troubles?

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JRPGfan said:
Lucas-Rio said:

In France retailers are now putting the console a 439€ instead of 469€ for preorders. Signs that the numbers are not what they expected?

Retailers also have started to put Mario kart at 69€ and Donkey Kong at 59€.

Just checked my favorite hardware shop here in Denmark, to buy online from.

Mario Kart World  - 649 kr (~81$) (this is the physical version, so cheaper than 90$....)
Nintendo Switch2 Camra - 1299 kr (~162$) (might be a placeholder, seems way to high)
Switch 2 -  No price yet, you can only ask for a notification. Due to it not being ready for pre-orders yet, or too high demand.

Komplet doesn't have it listed yet either,...

El-giganten and Power, both have them up for preorders at 4249 kr.  (~531$) (that is the non-bundled mario Kart version).
The Mario Kart bundle is 4749 kr (~593$)

...

I hope Denmark gets a cheaper one, before the next mainline Mario is out.
439€ is still pricey but its a easier swallow than 531$ (or 593$ bundle).

Yes, that's what retail is good, because of competitions which lower price. I don't buy any digital game since I prefer physical and anyway the physical games always end up cheaper than the digital on eshop in my country. I hope it continues.



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Not sure where you live so can't really comment.

In Australia, NES games used to cost $99 in the early 90s

Switch 1st party games cost around $90 AUD.

Switch 2 games seem to be $109 AUD to $120 AUD if using a 64gb cart.

So to us the increase in a 30 year span is nothing when out disposable income is significantly more than in early 90s.

I am sure the US stupid TRUMP taxes have had an impact on this too somewhat,



 

 

Lucas-Rio said:

In France retailers are now putting the console a 439€ instead of 469€ for preorders. Signs that the numbers are not what they expected?

Retailers also have started to put Mario kart at 69€ and Donkey Kong at 59€.

This is just what French retailers do. When the rest of the Euro (€) countries got the original Switch for €329, it was sold for €299 in France right from the start. What you are witnessing is that MSRPs are not binding, so retailers can undercut the MSRP as they see fit. Which is exactly what they've done before, hence why you could buy new physical releases on Switch for €55 or less despite their MSRPs being €59.99.

The digital prices for games will be what Nintendo has announced, but the price for physical games will vary. This is why I've said that freaking out over the physical prices is premature, because retailers aren't bound to charge what Nintendo suggests. Heck, most of the reason for Nintendo adding €10 to the MSRP for physical games in comparison to their digital counterparts might be that it was so common that retailers shaved off €10 during the latter half of the generation; so in other words, it's in part a measure to make digital and physical cost the same in the real world.

And naturally, the offers for physical games will probably get better as the generation progresses.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

I think DS>3DS is the most likely scenario here. Selling about half of its predecessor, so around 80 million lifetime.



Okay. Judging the vibes and seeing such a group of gamers who are contantly fighting come together in union and rip this apart and by some of the very good points I've seen made, I'm starting to believe this might be a Wii U situation. I still have a feeling that it'll do better but relative to the Switch as Wii U was relative to the Wii, I'm more inclined to lean in that direction than say a little under the 3ds which I was suspecting. Time will tell, it's going to be interesting and part of me as I've seen many other express thinks it should fail, it would be for the better if it failed for Nintendo Consumers alone but everyone else too.



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LegitHyperbole said:

Okay. Judging the vibes and seeing such a group of gamers who are contantly fighting come together in union and rip this apart and by some of the very good points I've seen made, I'm starting to believe this might be a Wii U situation. I still have a feeling that it'll do better but relative to the Switch as Wii U was relative to the Wii, I'm more inclined to lean in that direction than say a little under the 3ds which I was suspecting. Time will tell, it's going to be interesting and part of me as I've seen many other express thinks it should fail, it would be for the better if it failed for Nintendo Consumers alone but everyone else too.

Going by online vibes and the opinions of gamers is probably the worst thing you can do. Going by those metrics the switch pokemon games would be the worst selling in the series history instead of the 2nd and 3rd best. Or assassin's creed shadows would be bombing instead of having one of the biggest launches in the series history. 

I do think the switch 2 will likely sell significantly less than the 1st but I very highly doubt it will be anywhere close to a Wii U situation.

Last edited by pikashoe - on 04 April 2025

LegitHyperbole said:

Okay. Judging the vibes and seeing such a group of gamers who are contantly fighting come together in union and rip this apart and by some of the very good points I've seen made, I'm starting to believe this might be a Wii U situation. I still have a feeling that it'll do better but relative to the Switch as Wii U was relative to the Wii, I'm more inclined to lean in that direction than say a little under the 3ds which I was suspecting. Time will tell, it's going to be interesting and part of me as I've seen many other express thinks it should fail, it would be for the better if it failed for Nintendo Consumers alone but everyone else too.

What are these very good points? And why would it be for the better if it failed?



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

LegitHyperbole said:

Okay. Judging the vibes and seeing such a group of gamers who are contantly fighting come together in union and rip this apart and by some of the very good points I've seen made, I'm starting to believe this might be a Wii U situation. I still have a feeling that it'll do better but relative to the Switch as Wii U was relative to the Wii, I'm more inclined to lean in that direction than say a little under the 3ds which I was suspecting. Time will tell, it's going to be interesting and part of me as I've seen many other express thinks it should fail, it would be for the better if it failed for Nintendo Consumers alone but everyone else too.

Internet controversies really don't mean much. Hogwarts Legacy, Pokémon Sword/Shield and Assassin's Creed Shadows were all in the middle of boycotts and controversies and the 3 sold really well.

This isn't another Wii U situation again lmao. There's no confusion surrounding the Switch 2 name, the games lineup is MUCH better than the Wii U one and the Switch 2 is actually a desirable product, unlike the Wii U.

The only problem is the $80/90 price for the games (I was already expecting a increase to $70). The console price is fine I think, but the sweet spot was $399 imo. $449 is not terrible but they will lose sales because for the casual people that may be too much.



 

RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Okay. Judging the vibes and seeing such a group of gamers who are contantly fighting come together in union and rip this apart and by some of the very good points I've seen made, I'm starting to believe this might be a Wii U situation. I still have a feeling that it'll do better but relative to the Switch as Wii U was relative to the Wii, I'm more inclined to lean in that direction than say a little under the 3ds which I was suspecting. Time will tell, it's going to be interesting and part of me as I've seen many other express thinks it should fail, it would be for the better if it failed for Nintendo Consumers alone but everyone else too.

Internet controversies really don't mean much. Hogwarts Legacy, Pokémon Sword/Shield and Assassin's Creed Shadows were all in the middle of boycotts and controversies and the 3 sold really well.

This isn't another Wii U situation again lmao. There's no confusion surrounding the Switch 2 name, the games lineup is MUCH better than the Wii U one and the Switch 2 is actually a desirable product, unlike the Wii U.

The only problem is the $80/90 price for the games (I was already expecting a increase to $70). The console price is fine I think, but the sweet spot was $399 imo. $449 is not terrible but they will lose sales because for the casual people that may be too much.

I will reply with a meme. 🙃 but in seriousness, we need data on how many kids are on Switch, that's the really big one, parents who'll see cheaper prices in this economy and say no because of the game prices. 



LegitHyperbole said:
RedKingXIII said:

Internet controversies really don't mean much. Hogwarts Legacy, Pokémon Sword/Shield and Assassin's Creed Shadows were all in the middle of boycotts and controversies and the 3 sold really well.

This isn't another Wii U situation again lmao. There's no confusion surrounding the Switch 2 name, the games lineup is MUCH better than the Wii U one and the Switch 2 is actually a desirable product, unlike the Wii U.

The only problem is the $80/90 price for the games (I was already expecting a increase to $70). The console price is fine I think, but the sweet spot was $399 imo. $449 is not terrible but they will lose sales because for the casual people that may be too much.

I will reply with a meme.

lol. I'll admit, I laughed, but this is just a meme.