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After a strong last quarter this one brings things back down to earth with another adjustment down for hardware to 11m which is expected since 13.5m was always very ambitious. It's still for sure good for its age but its age is starting to really show now so it's unfortunate they didn't have the Switch 2 ready by November since people are hungry for it so it better launch by May-June. Things really are gonna come down to the wire when it comes to beating the PS2 it seems which is exciting in its own way. For software Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is insane as usual though Mario Wonder really has kinda underperformed compared to expectations. I guess 2D Mario just isn't as popular as it used to be.

Also growth in the annual playing users seems to be nearly stopping so a big task for the Switch 2 will be to prevent that from declining and ideally grow it further in the coming years.

Last edited by Norion - on 04 February 2025

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Mario Party Jamboree is on fire, over 6 million in two and a half months is terrific. The series really has become a juggernaut on the Switch.

3.9m for Echoes of Wisdom in just over 3 months is also really good considering it's a more experimental and offbeat entry as opposed to the usual formula.

Either Mario Wonder or Switch Sports needs to hurry up and knock NSMBUD out of the top ten haha

Last edited by curl-6 - on 04 February 2025

KLXVER said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

That IGN review must have hurt Mario and Luigi's sales.

It actually sold pretty decent for the franchise. I think it will end up being the second best selling M&L game after Bowsers Inside Story.

It's overall a pretty good results for a series coming back like it did. It's about even in terms of 1st quarter shipment with Paper Mario TTYD remake.

curl-6 said:

Mario Party Jamboree is one fire, over 6 million in two and a half months is terrific. The series really has become a juggernaut on the Switch.

3.9m for Echoes of Wisdom in just over 3 months is also really good considering its a more experimental and offbeat entry as opposed to the usual formula.

Either Mario Wonder or Switch Sports needs to hurry up and knock NSMBUD out of the top ten haha

I wouldn't worry too much since this was always a matter of years in the making. People trying to hurry the results will need to take their patience in hands cuz this was always for the looooong waul !



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Posted this already on the "Road to 160m+ for Nintendo Switch" thread, but I'll also post it here:

That Switch 2 presentation is going to make or break Switch 1's end of life cycle - Specifically that MSRP price and launch lineup.

The DS was still selling pretty well even after the 3DS launched - The main reason being the 3DS' $250 launch price, uninteresting gimmick, and lack of killer apps/great launch software made it stumble out of the gate, so fans just stuck with the DS.
Then the 3DS got that price cut to $170 - which made it the same price as the DSi and that was the beginning of the end for the DS. Fast forward to Holiday 2011 and that 1-2 combo of 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 hit shelves, and from that point on the 3DS' software started rolling in and that was all she wrote. It may have still gotten stellar software afterwards (Black/White 2) but as far as hardware sales went - the DS was done after that.

Will history repeat itself with the Switch 1 -> Switch 2 transition?
Assuming Switch 1 doesn't get a price cut at all for any models and they stay where they are - That's already one thing they'll have going against it. But if Switch 2 launches at $400 like most are expecting/predicting or even higher, while I don't think it'll struggle nearly as much as the 3DS did at $250 and it'll still sell extremely well despite the steep price - even if it's $450, that will put enough of a gap and distance between it and the Switch 1 models to where the people who are more hesitant and tight with their spending will just opt to stick with Switch 1 - Especially the base and Lite models as their entry points.
But if Switch 2 ends up being $350 - that's going to really cut a substantial amount the Switch 1's legs off to where I don't think it'll catch the PS2 at that point. And if by some miracle the Switch 2 ends up being $300 - that's 'Game Over' for Switch 1 and it'll be limping past the DS before it collapses.



PAOerfulone said:

Posted this already on the "Road to 160m+ for Nintendo Switch" thread, but I'll also post it here:

That Switch 2 presentation is going to make or break Switch 1's end of life cycle - Specifically that MSRP price and launch lineup.

The DS was still selling pretty well even after the 3DS launched - The main reason being the 3DS' $250 launch price, uninteresting gimmick, and lack of killer apps/great launch software made it stumble out of the gate, so fans just stuck with the DS.
Then the 3DS got that price cut to $170 - which made it the same price as the DSi and that was the beginning of the end for the DS. Fast forward to Holiday 2011 and that 1-2 combo of 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 hit shelves, and from that point on the 3DS' software started rolling in and that was all she wrote. It may have still gotten stellar software afterwards (Black/White 2) but as far as hardware sales went - the DS was done after that.

Will history repeat itself with the Switch 1 -> Switch 2 transition?
Assuming Switch 1 doesn't get a price cut at all for any models and they stay where they are - That's already one thing they'll have going against it. But if Switch 2 launches at $400 like most are expecting/predicting or even higher, while I don't think it'll struggle nearly as much as the 3DS did at $250 and it'll still sell extremely well despite the steep price - even if it's $450, that will put enough of a gap and distance between it and the Switch 1 models to where the people who are more hesitant and tight with their spending will just opt to stick with Switch 1 - Especially the base and Lite models as their entry points.
But if Switch 2 ends up being $350 - that's going to really cut a substantial amount the Switch 1's legs off to where I don't think it'll catch the PS2 at that point. And if by some miracle the Switch 2 ends up being $300 - that's 'Game Over' for Switch 1 and it'll be limping past the DS before it collapses.

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Norion said:

After a strong last quarter this one brings things back down to earth with another adjustment down for hardware to 11m which is expected since 13.5m was always very ambitious. It's still for sure good for its age but its age is starting to really show now so it's unfortunate they didn't have the Switch 2 ready by November since people are hungry for it so it better launch by May-June. Things really are gonna come down to the wire when it comes to beating the PS2 it seems which is exciting in its own way. For software Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is insane as usual though Mario Wonder really has kinda underperformed compared to expectations. I guess 2D Mario just isn't as popular as it used to be.

Also growth in the annual playing users seems to be nearly stopping so a big task for the Switch 2 will be to prevent that from declining and ideally grow it further in the coming years.

What were your expectations for Super Mario Wonder? The Switch has 2 other 2D Mario games, with New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe selling over 18 million. I'm not sure this is a case of 2D Mario not being as popular. Wonder still has a chance to pass NSMBUD, but the seeming decline could merely be driven by fatigue of 2D Mario on Switch, as well as Wonder releasing towards the end of the Switch life. And let's face it - many casuals may not realize the game is very different from the NSMB games and may not think they need another "similar" game on Switch. NSMBUD has had many years to increase sales slowly over time. Wonder is still selling well with +2.07 million so far this fiscal year. I'm not convinced that 2D Mario popularity has declined, but we shall see as Wonder continues to sell and what happens with the next game on Switch 2.



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Olivernintentoal said:
Norion said:

After a strong last quarter this one brings things back down to earth with another adjustment down for hardware to 11m which is expected since 13.5m was always very ambitious. It's still for sure good for its age but its age is starting to really show now so it's unfortunate they didn't have the Switch 2 ready by November since people are hungry for it so it better launch by May-June. Things really are gonna come down to the wire when it comes to beating the PS2 it seems which is exciting in its own way. For software Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is insane as usual though Mario Wonder really has kinda underperformed compared to expectations. I guess 2D Mario just isn't as popular as it used to be.

Also growth in the annual playing users seems to be nearly stopping so a big task for the Switch 2 will be to prevent that from declining and ideally grow it further in the coming years.

What were your expectations for Super Mario Wonder? The Switch has 2 other 2D Mario games, with New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe selling over 18 million. I'm not sure this is a case of 2D Mario not being as popular. Wonder still has a chance to pass NSMBUD, but the seeming decline could merely be driven by fatigue of 2D Mario on Switch, as well as Wonder releasing towards the end of the Switch life. And let's face it - many casuals may not realize the game is very different from the NSMB games and may not think they need another "similar" game on Switch. NSMBUD has had many years to increase sales slowly over time. Wonder is still selling well with +2.07 million so far this fiscal year. I'm not convinced that 2D Mario popularity has declined, but we shall see as Wonder continues to sell and what happens with the next game on Switch 2.

I was expecting at least as much as New Super Mario Bros DS and the Wii one considering the massive install base and how many Nintendo series have broken records on the Switch. It did have the biggest launch for a Mario game ever but only slightly over 2m since the end of March doesn't strike me as enough to get to 30m since sales for it should be lower this year than in 2024. It just seems to me that 2D Mario has underperformed on the Switch when compared to how most other big series have performed so the popularity of 2D Mario was significantly higher 15 years ago from what I can see with 3D Mario heavily increasing in popularity since then at the same time.



Norion said:
Olivernintentoal said:

What were your expectations for Super Mario Wonder? The Switch has 2 other 2D Mario games, with New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe selling over 18 million. I'm not sure this is a case of 2D Mario not being as popular. Wonder still has a chance to pass NSMBUD, but the seeming decline could merely be driven by fatigue of 2D Mario on Switch, as well as Wonder releasing towards the end of the Switch life. And let's face it - many casuals may not realize the game is very different from the NSMB games and may not think they need another "similar" game on Switch. NSMBUD has had many years to increase sales slowly over time. Wonder is still selling well with +2.07 million so far this fiscal year. I'm not convinced that 2D Mario popularity has declined, but we shall see as Wonder continues to sell and what happens with the next game on Switch 2.

I was expecting at least as much as New Super Mario Bros DS and the Wii one considering the massive install base and how many Nintendo series have broken records on the Switch. It did have the biggest launch for a Mario game ever but only slightly over 2m since the end of March doesn't strike me as enough to get to 30m since sales for it should be lower this year than in 2024. It just seems to me that 2D Mario has underperformed on the Switch when compared to how most other big series have performed so the popularity of 2D Mario was significantly higher 15 years ago from what I can see with 3D Mario heavily increasing in popularity since then at the same time.

Simply more competition from other Mario platformers. I believe the DS had 2, the Switch has 4 (5 if Mario Maker2 is included).



Tober said:
Norion said:

I was expecting at least as much as New Super Mario Bros DS and the Wii one considering the massive install base and how many Nintendo series have broken records on the Switch. It did have the biggest launch for a Mario game ever but only slightly over 2m since the end of March doesn't strike me as enough to get to 30m since sales for it should be lower this year than in 2024. It just seems to me that 2D Mario has underperformed on the Switch when compared to how most other big series have performed so the popularity of 2D Mario was significantly higher 15 years ago from what I can see with 3D Mario heavily increasing in popularity since then at the same time.

Simply more competition from other Mario platformers. I believe the DS had 2, the Switch has 4 (5 if Mario Maker2 is included).

That's a factor but considering the many people who will have bought multiple or even all of those games on the Switch the amount of individual people buying 2D Mario might be lower now compared to the DS and Wii days despite the popularity of the Switch which would be quite notable.



It's also a matter of time. All the new SMB games released pretty early into their respective console's lifecycle and had many years in the spotlight with which to garner sales. SMB wonder gets no such luxury, having not even 2 years before the Switch is replaced.