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Will Playstation also go 3rd party?

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No 35 77.78%
 
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method114 on 30 January 2025
ptofhearts said:

Sony is already third party. Most of their games are available on windows, with at least one game on Switch (Lego Horizon). It's a matter of time for them to start releasing everything everywhere. Microsoft started slowly too.

There's no way they release on Xbox. Everything else I can see happening but not Xbox though. There's no reason to release on Xbox they are a dying hardware why give them life when you can just wait them out and let their customers cross over to your ecosystem. That's much more valuable then selling more games to their player base and keeping their hardware alive.



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DroidKnight on 30 January 2025
method114 said:
ptofhearts said:

Sony is already third party. Most of their games are available on windows, with at least one game on Switch (Lego Horizon). It's a matter of time for them to start releasing everything everywhere. Microsoft started slowly too.

There's no way they release on Xbox. Everything else I can see happening but not Xbox though. There's no reason to release on Xbox they are a dying hardware why give them life when you can just wait them out and let their customers cross over to your ecosystem. That's much more valuable then selling more games to their player base and keeping their hardware alive.

Keep in mind if the Nextbox is also a steambox, every Playstation game ever released on PC and every future game release on PC will automatically be on Xbox's next system.  There won't be a need to port a different version for the Xbox OS, the PC version will be fine. 



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method114 on 30 January 2025
DroidKnight said:
method114 said:

There's no way they release on Xbox. Everything else I can see happening but not Xbox though. There's no reason to release on Xbox they are a dying hardware why give them life when you can just wait them out and let their customers cross over to your ecosystem. That's much more valuable then selling more games to their player base and keeping their hardware alive.

Keep in mind if the Nextbox is also a steambox, every Playstation game ever released on PC and every future game release on PC will automatically be on Xbox's next system.  There won't be a need to port a different version for the Xbox OS, the PC version will be fine. 

You're correct IF they do that is the key thing. I personally don't believe they are and Jez Corden released an article stating that the next console will be a traditional console. Why give your hardcore fanbase an alternative store? Let them build up a steam library so they can eventually ditch your ecosystem altogether?

Seems like a much better idea to me to simply release a traditional console let the @25 million or so fanbase move over and collect subs from them.

Will also be interesting to see how the licensing works. You can't simply give all of your customers a PC license to the games they own. They need permission from the publishers. The play anywhere list doesn't include most games so that will also be an issue for them. Very excited to see what they end up doing but I honestly believe it's just going to be a traditional console.



Kyuu on 30 January 2025
NoLimitVito said:

Yeah good idea follow the strategy of a company who's system is in the bottom place declining each year and destroyed their console business completely.....very wise decision I wonder why not enough successful companies thought about this before....

It would be especially hilarious because Sony sells a crap load of consoles and 3rd party software vs a limited amount of first party software. Why would anyone willingly downgrade from dominating their rival to being dominated by them? Sony as a 3rd party publisher would be absolutely tiny compared to Microsoft which now's own Activision Blizzard in addition to Zenimax and Mojang.



Wman1996 on 30 January 2025
ptofhearts said:

Sony is already third party. Most of their games are available on windows, with at least one game on Switch (Lego Horizon). It's a matter of time for them to start releasing everything everywhere. Microsoft started slowly too.

Virtually all their pre-PS4 library of Sony games are not available on anything other than a PlayStation. The only workaround to that is using a PS Plus launcher will let you stream many games on PC.

There's even some PS4 games like Knack & Knack II, The Order 1886, Concrete Genie, Fat Princess Adventures, etc. that aren't on PC either. 

Sony is starting to "swim" in the third-party pool, but not near as much as Microsoft. 



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ptofhearts on 30 January 2025
Wman1996 said:
ptofhearts said:

Sony is already third party. Most of their games are available on windows, with at least one game on Switch (Lego Horizon). It's a matter of time for them to start releasing everything everywhere. Microsoft started slowly too.

Virtually all their pre-PS4 library of Sony games are not available on anything other than a PlayStation. The only workaround to that is using a PS Plus launcher will let you stream many games on PC.

There's even some PS4 games like Knack & Knack II, The Order 1886, Concrete Genie, Fat Princess Adventures, etc. that aren't on PC either. 

Sony is starting to "swim" in the third-party pool, but not near as much as Microsoft. 

The Last of Us Part 1 and 2, God of War and Ragnarok, Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West, Spider Man 1 and 2, Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection, Ratchet and Clank and Ghost of Tsushima . Literally all of their biggest IPs are available on a different platform, meaning you don't need a PlayStation to play them. That's what a third party is in my view.

Judging from your logic, we can say that Microsoft is not third party either, since there's no Fable and Halo games on PlayStation, for example.



curl-6 on 28 March 2025

Two more Sony IPs coming to Switch: Patapon and Everybody's Golf

https://www.ign.com/articles/patapon-12-replay-brings-classic-playstation-games-to-pc-and-nintendo-switch-this-summer

https://www.ign.com/articles/everybodys-golf-hot-shots-tees-off-a-new-entry-with-a-new-developer-later-this-year

As part of a licensing agreement both are being published by Namco, not Sony, but all the same, these are longtime Sony franchises.

While the big AAA stuff seems to be PS5 + PC for now, Sony clearly has no qualms about bringing their stuff to Nintendo if it suits them.

With costs rising across the industry, gaming continues to trend away from exclusivity and towards wider releases.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 28 March 2025

konnichiwa on 28 March 2025

Mentioned it before but their is more and more pressure against Sony to open their platform and have the ability to buy a digital key from an other place that also can be used on Playstation without Sony getting a cut. In Europe especially we see more cases against Sony and honestly for gamers it would be amazing to buy the 70 capcom games for 19.99 from humble bundle that also has a Ps digital key.  Devs are also not against the idea to sell a digital key on Amazon that maybe doesn't ask 30% cut that also works on PS or having Free Prime games that also work on PS.

If sony is like any other company they want to grow so what would make sense is releasing more games on more platforms and becoming more a third party publisher or they downsize, rely less on third party and make their IP's bigger...






xl-klaudkil on 28 March 2025
ptofhearts said:
Wman1996 said:

Virtually all their pre-PS4 library of Sony games are not available on anything other than a PlayStation. The only workaround to that is using a PS Plus launcher will let you stream many games on PC.

There's even some PS4 games like Knack & Knack II, The Order 1886, Concrete Genie, Fat Princess Adventures, etc. that aren't on PC either. 

Sony is starting to "swim" in the third-party pool, but not near as much as Microsoft. 

The Last of Us Part 1 and 2, God of War and Ragnarok, Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West, Spider Man 1 and 2, Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection, Ratchet and Clank and Ghost of Tsushima . Literally all of their biggest IPs are available on a different platform, meaning you don't need a PlayStation to play them. That's what a third party is in my view.

Judging from your logic, we can say that Microsoft is not third party either, since there's no Fable and Halo games on PlayStation, for example.

Not yet you mean. They will be soo 



 

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BasilZero on 28 March 2025

No.

They wont release their entire lineup of games day 1 on PC alongside the console version because they are fixated on consoles first and foremost.

As a third party , they wouldnt have as much impact to begin with compared to Microsoft who has Activision Blizzard and Bethesda on top of the other IP they own.