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Otter on 17 January 2025
IcaroRibeiro said:
Otter said:

I don't think its much about having unrealistic expectations but just questioning the value of such a stand alone trailer when they could obviously do a way more exciting reveal and still left plenty for a bigger event. That in itself is fair observation regardless of what was expected of Nintendo. It's just calling a spade a spade. 

We also don't know the behind the scenes are either, so I wouldn't defend this route as if we know it was always Nintendo's intention and optimal version of events. For sure though, none of this matters in the long run in terms of a successful launch, so its just a matter of discussing preference.



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Doubt it. If they want third parties to announce their games they would have prepared a joined showcase. More likely than not, the first wave of third parties would be ports, but regardless a 1 hour length presentation with dozen of third party ports new to Nintendo's would immeditely demonstrate there will be many new games to play

Schrieier is arguably the most reputable source in the industry, so I'm inclined to believe him. I do wonder whether Nintendo is a bit behind with their own games/trailers and thus didn't want hold third parties hostage...

But also if most Switch 2 support initially is late ports, thats not really showcase worthy so also a reason why they would want to give them room to just drop announcements gradually over the weeks versus having 30 late ports all competing for headlines at the same time.



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killer7 on 17 January 2025

So in Handheld mode its basically a PS4 with more RAM (on par/ slightly above) and in dock its 75% of an XSS. For a Handheld thats amazing!



konnichiwa on 17 January 2025
IcaroRibeiro said:
Otter said:

I don't think its much about having unrealistic expectations but just questioning the value of such a stand alone trailer when they could obviously do a way more exciting reveal and still left plenty for a bigger event. That in itself is fair observation regardless of what was expected of Nintendo. It's just calling a spade a spade. 

We also don't know the behind the scenes are either, so I wouldn't defend this route as if we know it was always Nintendo's intention and optimal version of events. For sure though, none of this matters in the long run in terms of a successful launch, so its just a matter of discussing preference.



https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3lfuemordqc23

Doubt it. If they want third parties to announce their games they would have prepared a joined showcase. More likely than not, the first wave of third parties would be ports, but regardless a 1 hour length presentation with dozen of third party ports new to Nintendo's would immeditely demonstrate there will be many new games to play

A showcase with +30 games announced?  For big ones sure, but indies now can announce now games with the switch 2 loge and why not show the next doom game with switch 2 logo?  The event can be big surprises...






IcaroRibeiro on 17 January 2025
Otter said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Doubt it. If they want third parties to announce their games they would have prepared a joined showcase. More likely than not, the first wave of third parties would be ports, but regardless a 1 hour length presentation with dozen of third party ports new to Nintendo's would immeditely demonstrate there will be many new games to play

Schrieier is arguably the most reputable source in the industry, so I'm inclined to believe him. I do wonder whether Nintendo is a bit behind with their own games/trailers and thus didn't want hold third parties hostage...

But also if most Switch 2 support initially is late ports, thats not really showcase worthy so also a reason why they would want to give them room to just drop announcements gradually over the weeks versus having 30 late ports all competing for headlines at the same time.

Third parties late ports are 100% showcase worth because a) those games were not on any Nintendo system yet, so for Nintendo userbase they are new games, and b) they are good to show how well Switch 2 can run games, in a technical level

Initial support from third parties being late ports is nothing new. PS5 third party launch games we all ports too, that Sony did was to prepare a great showcase with upcoming games. A showcase showing Monster Hunter Wilds port to Switch 2 as a launch title, or even announcing the new Dragon Quest mainline for the next 2 years, this would be much better than very low-key scattered reveals from third parties 



HoloDust on 17 January 2025
IcaroRibeiro said:

Disclaimer: I know this is just a rumour, so understand my comment as speculation based on the screenshot provided 

Comparison to standard PS4

CPU: 1024 Gflops, 1600 MHz, 8 cores

GPU: 1843 Gflops, 18 CUs, 800 MHz, 1152 cores

RAM: 8GB, 256 bit, bandwidth 176 GB/s

PS4 Pro

CPU: 1344 Gflops, 2130 MHz, 8 cores

GPU: 4197 Gflops, 36 CUs, 911 MHz, 2304 cores

RAM: 8GB, 256 bit, bandwidth 217 GB/s

I understand this is not 1:1 comparison because the architectures are different, but looks slightly weaker than PS4 on Handheld mode and between PS4 and PS4 Pro docked which is... pretty good actually! Must be enough to receive many of current gen games (granted, at low res and 30 FPS), except the ones that are coming later for PS5/Xbox

I'm curious to see if it runs PS4 games better than PS4 Pro

If those specs are true, Handheld mode is much better than PS4 - Ampere is vastly superior to GCN1.

Not sure if that 1007,3 MHz in Docked is fixed, or it can boost further - i.e., weakest 3050 (with 2304 CUDA cores) has core clock of 1042MHz, but it can boost up to 1470MHz, so maybe SW2 can do that as well.



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Mr.GameCrazy on 17 January 2025

I'm looking forward to the Switch 2 Direct!



IcaroRibeiro on 17 January 2025
konnichiwa said:

A showcase with +30 games announced?  For big ones sure, but indies now can announce now games with the switch 2 loge and why not show the next doom game with switch 2 logo?  The event can be big surprises...

Swtich 2 is like 6 months away anyway, I don't think any indie game is benefiting from Switch 2 release as any indie game can easily run on OG Switch already



Otter on 17 January 2025
IcaroRibeiro said:
Otter said:

Schrieier is arguably the most reputable source in the industry, so I'm inclined to believe him. I do wonder whether Nintendo is a bit behind with their own games/trailers and thus didn't want hold third parties hostage...

But also if most Switch 2 support initially is late ports, thats not really showcase worthy so also a reason why they would want to give them room to just drop announcements gradually over the weeks versus having 30 late ports all competing for headlines at the same time.

Third parties late ports are 100% showcase worth because a) those games were not on any Nintendo system yet, so for Nintendo userbase they are new games, and b) they are good to show how well Switch 2 can run games, in a technical level

Initial support from third parties being late ports is nothing new. PS5 third party launch games we all ports too, that Sony did was to prepare a great showcase with upcoming games. A showcase showing Monster Hunter Wilds port to Switch 2 as a launch title, or even announcing the new Dragon Quest mainline for the next 2 years, this would be much better than very low-key scattered reveals from third parties 

Sony did not give spotlight to late ports besides GTAV when they revealed PS5. That is not how you showcase a new system. Yet to be released games like Monster Hunter Wild would of course make great showcases but according to reports we're looking at a "lot" of games from 2023 and earlier... And they are the kind that simply do not need to a dedicated showcase ahead of/or next to Nintendo's actual big next gen reveal.



alphamb03 on 17 January 2025
BasilZero said:

The disclaimer stating that some games are not compatible - I wonder which games that would be.

Hopefully nothing major.

Labo, Ring Fit, 1-2 Switch. (i.e. games which utilize the IR sensor.)



alphamb03 on 17 January 2025
Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Serious_frusting said:

Hugh, well that was underwhelming. Lets hope nintendo can show something killa in april because atm this just seems like a switch pro

This. Why would you showcase your new and more powerful hardware with a Mario Kart game that looks almost identical to MK8. I thought it was MK8 until the posters in here pointed out a few differences

it’s rich hearing that from you lol. Acting like almost every PS5 first-party release hasn’t literally just been an asset reusing sequel or “remaster” of a PS4 game. (Not to mention: PlayStation literally has gone 5 generations doing incremental changes to hardware, only changing the number next to the name. Yet when Nintendo does it, it’s underwhelming.) Based on the brief snippets of gameplay we have seen from MK-NSW2, it’s clear there is a noticeable difference in art style and gameplay (if you know what to look for, you’ll see it). Graphics are certainly a tad bit underwhelming atm, tho you also gotta remember we’re looking at this game running on a small screen w/in a compressed YT video. Many of the graphical differences will not be seen from this tease, nor was that the intention.

Last edited by alphamb03 - on 17 January 2025