TheTitaniumNub said:
ima just a find a way to die, im a type 1 diabetic, any apocalypse situation means im dead. |
I'm the same, and if anything happens we can move to Brazil or some other sunny place free of drama
In nuclear war, I'd... | |||
Rather die in the nuclear blast. | 4 | 16.00% | |
Try and survive the Fallout. | 21 | 84.00% | |
Total: | 25 |
TheTitaniumNub said:
ima just a find a way to die, im a type 1 diabetic, any apocalypse situation means im dead. |
I'm the same, and if anything happens we can move to Brazil or some other sunny place free of drama
shavenferret said:
I'm the same, and if anything happens we can move to Brazil or some other sunny place free of drama |
Southern hemisphere is the place to be during a nuclear winter, best chance of survival.
Arctic circle is the place to be during runaway global warming. But it will be unstable anywhere.
Oct 22nd, 24 degrees in Southern Ontario, we hardly had any rain, bone dry. The wild apple trees are not bearing fruit. Also hardly any walnuts this year (saves cleaning them up I guess). The squirrels take em before they fall. Leaves have been falling since mid July. Tiny flies are out everywhere, biting little buggers. Weirdest fall I have seen yet.
I wonder if we'll get any significant snow this year. When I got to Canada I was digging out the driveway and sidewalk making piles as tall as myself. Last year, managed to get the kids out sledding only twice, half on grass :/ That mild winter and warm spring led to algea problems in pools all over, as well as phosphate problems. And all through summer I've been watering the gardens from the very low river. So hot and dry nowadays.
Climate change is real, it's everywhere. It will put some people out of business (like my wife who is a daylily hybridizer, plants are not coping with the new climate, seed crop keeps dwindling, new plants aren't surviving) it will drive people to move, climate refugees will become the next 'problem'.
All I can do is tell my kids to go live further North, get some trade skills, AI is taking the desk jobs.
Antarctica will come back to life, rain forests back on the South Pole. That would be a good place to invest in. (Or where future wars will be fought over)
You are on VGChartz where the majority have never likely been educated at univerity level. Sorry, you are wasting your time convincing most of these fools. There are a gazillion of scientific journals out there, these posters should attempt to understand them.
LegitHyperbole said:
Deny it all ya want, it's happening. There is a point where things could accelerate rather fast, the sibirian permafrost melting for example which is a carbon prison. Estimates are drastically liberal. |
I am a bit puzzled because I don't think I am denying much of anything. In this thread I said that climate change is a problem a lot of people will suffer from.
What more do you want me to say? That there are not a lot of alarmist climate crazies out there who do not understand the issue at all? Because there are. That man made global warming in the coming years is an extinction level catastrophy for humanity on the same level as a global nuclear war? Because it is not.
WhiteEaglePL said:
Say that to the many species going extinct due to climate change and other human issues like overfishing. |
Say what? That global nuclear war is worse than climate change? I don't think a fish will unserstand, given how humans apparently struggle with the message (quote: don't get me wrong, changing climates and warming will have negative consequences to a lot of people).
JuliusHackebeil said:
I am a bit puzzled because I don't think I am denying much of anything. In this thread I said that climate change is a problem a lot of people will suffer from. What more do you want me to say? That there are not a lot of alarmist climate crazies out there who do not understand the issue at all? Because there are. That man made global warming in the coming years is an extinction level catastrophy for humanity on the same level as a global nuclear war? Because it is not. |
Oh I thought you were saying it'll be no trouble at all. My bad.
LegitHyperbole said:
Oh I thought you were saying it'll be no trouble at all. My bad. |
Oh, thanks for the clarification. All good.
Global nuclear war would likely be easier for the planet to recover from. Nuclear winter can last as long as a decade. Nuclear fallout 1 to 5 years. It's nothing compared to how long it will take to recover from runaway greenhouse effect. Venus never recovered...
https://newsroom.carleton.ca/story/venus-climate-change/
Less than one billion years ago, the climate dramatically changed due to a runaway greenhouse effect. It can be speculated that an intensive period of volcanism pumped enough carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to cause this great climate change event that evaporated the oceans and caused the end of the water cycle.
https://www.livescience.com/59693-could-earth-turn-into-venus.html
It's going to happen in a billion years anyway, since the sun keeps getting hotter. But we have the technology to prevent it, we're just not willing to do much about it. It's a slow process, not something to worry about with 4 year political terms. You're not seeing much benefits short term nor more negatives short term. Long term planning seems a thing of the past where projects could last centuries. Now we need success right a way or loose interest. Doomed to keep heading in the same direction long term.
But sure, we and our children will have little problems. Our children a bit more, their children more, and so on. It's becoming a fact that the best period to be alive has peaked, things will be going downhill in the future.
JuliusHackebeil said: I also don't think that climate change is going to be a problem in any way comparable to a nuclear world war. Don't get me wrong, changing climates and warming will have negative consequences to a lot of people. But global nuclear winter is inconceivably worse in every way. Climate change stuff is mostly alarmist shouting in a highly politicised environment, almost more of an ideology than an actual environmental catastrophy of extinction level proportions. Edit 1: REM rocks |
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