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Would you go back to home console Nintendo?

Yes 43 64.18%
 
No 17 25.37%
 
There's a possibility. 7 10.45%
 
Total:67

I'm really surprised by the results. Would people rate this site as hardcore Nintendo? Could the results be because people would follow Nintendo through any changes?

At any rate like Eric and other siad Nintendo aren't separating from Hybrid as they've structured the company towards it. The best that could be hoped for is a Switch TV.



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I would buy any kind of game console made by Nintendo if it had Nintendo games. Pretty much end of discussion.



Cerebralbore101 said:
Pemalite said:

When I say it's at a "Premium" on consoles... I am pointing at the total amount of memory available, not the financial aspect.

Even the Playstation 5 Pro which is over $1,200 AUD has only 16GB of total RAM when a comparable PC would be having 32GB-48GB - System+GPU Ram.

Switch 2.0 would likely target 1080P, it's what mobile chips are targeting these days, anything more is a waste of resources.

What game reasonably makes use of 32 GB of ram? Isn't 32GB of ram just for non-gaming stuff? Shouldn't 16 GB be plenty for 90% of games?

Keep in mind that PC has multiple memory pools. - GPU's tend to have 8-16GB of video Ram.

And system memory of 16GB is considered essential and 32GB is preferred these days...
But a specific game is Hogwarts legacy which is happy to chew on 10GB Graphics memory and 22GB system memory... And it's once you start dialing those effects up, throwing on DLSS, Frame gen and Ray tracing that the amount of Ram you need increases substantially.

EricHiggin said:

If Switch 2 only had a pool of 8-12GB, then DLSS would have to take from that pool which the games themselves would typically need on their own. In order for DLSS to be really meaningful and offer the best improvements it can, it would need more RAM on top of that.

Absolutely.

EricHiggin said:

If PS5, Pro, and Series X, only have 16GB of RAM, its unlikely that a hybrid like Switch 2 would have that much. RAM is expensive, and in general the more RAM you have the more power you're going to use as well, which then also means less battery life, or a battery with a higher capacity which will cost more, plus added weight.

Keep in mind the types of Ram these platforms are using. The faster your Ram, the more expensive it generally is.
GDDR6 is going to be more expensive than LPDDR5X.

As for battery life... It's actually more expensive on battery if a developer needs to stream data from disk to overcome Ram limits as you need to fire up the disk controllers, the NAND and traverse across the entire systems silicon -while- keeping the Ram powered. - Even the CPU gets involved on a few of those steps.

It's more energy efficient to be able to cache everything into Ram.

EricHiggin said:

The less RAM the Switch 2 has, the less of an improvement DLSS will be able to make. Nin has a lot to juggle when it comes to designing the Switch 2 so it hits just the right performance, price, weight, etc.

Absolutely, it's a balance.

At the moment PC handhelds are fine with 16GB of Ram, but they aren't pushing high-end AAA PC settings at 4k, which also all need Ram... But they are starting to feel limiting at 16GB which is why many handhelds today are pushing towards 32GB of LPDDR.

LegitHyperbole said:

I'm really surprised by the results. Would people rate this site as hardcore Nintendo? Could the results be because people would follow Nintendo through any changes?

At any rate like Eric and other siad Nintendo aren't separating from Hybrid as they've structured the company towards it. The best that could be hoped for is a Switch TV.

This site due to it's target audience is going to have a higher demographic towards enthusiasts which will skew things.

I think the missed opportunity for Nintendo was to have one single internal hardware platform, many hardware devices, one set of software that works across them all in order to have hardware that is appealing to many markets.
They sort-of got half way there with the Switch Lite which was mobile only... But no fixed console.



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--

I would have snatched up a Switch Home version day 1. Put bigger internal storage in and according to the poll results, print more money.



LegitHyperbole said:

I'm really surprised by the results. Would people rate this site as hardcore Nintendo? Could the results be because people would follow Nintendo through any changes?

At any rate like Eric and other siad Nintendo aren't separating from Hybrid as they've structured the company towards it. The best that could be hoped for is a Switch TV.

I mean, the simple fact that we're here spending our free time debating video games on a dedicated forum suggests we're not reflective of the average consumer. Most folks who play games don't feel the need to sign up to a forum, it's typically enthusiasts who get this invested.

The Wii U basically shows how many folks would follow Nintendo through thick and thin. That's the hardcore Nintendo audience who will buy any console to play their games.



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curl-6 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I'm really surprised by the results. Would people rate this site as hardcore Nintendo? Could the results be because people would follow Nintendo through any changes?

At any rate like Eric and other siad Nintendo aren't separating from Hybrid as they've structured the company towards it. The best that could be hoped for is a Switch TV.

I mean, the simple fact that we're here spending our free time debating video games on a dedicated forum suggests we're not reflective of the average consumer. Most folks who play games don't feel the need to sign up to a forum, it's typically enthusiasts who get this invested.

The Wii U basically shows how many folks would follow Nintendo through thick and thin. That's the hardcore Nintendo audience who will buy any console to play their games.

Yeah I'd reckon so too. Hopefully we'll get a Switch 2 TV only SKU along with a LITE on the next run. Ti's the only way I'm upgrading alas, I'll be away fron Nintendo for a generation if not. 



curl-6 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I'm really surprised by the results. Would people rate this site as hardcore Nintendo? Could the results be because people would follow Nintendo through any changes?

At any rate like Eric and other siad Nintendo aren't separating from Hybrid as they've structured the company towards it. The best that could be hoped for is a Switch TV.

I mean, the simple fact that we're here spending our free time debating video games on a dedicated forum suggests we're not reflective of the average consumer. Most folks who play games don't feel the need to sign up to a forum, it's typically enthusiasts who get this invested.

The Wii U basically shows how many folks would follow Nintendo through thick and thin. That's the hardcore Nintendo audience who will buy any console to play their games.

The WiiU was a great console, sadly ignored by the masses.

It did have some issues. Stick drift making the whole handheld experience crap. Not ergonomic, some games literally hurt to play.

Yet having the map and inventory in your hands while playing on an uncluttered screen, that was simply brilliant. Touch screen to handle inventory, pick abilities, upgrades, set markers on the map, easy zoom and drag. Then back to full screen playing while glancing at the map in your hands to go the right way.

A less bulky, more ergonomic tablet, basically the Switch as secondary screen would be great. Sadly the thing is stuck in its dock for TV mode :/ Maybe Switch 2 can bring that experience back. Either all on handheld, or cast the game play to the tv while keeping the UI on the Switch.



SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I'm really surprised by the results. Would people rate this site as hardcore Nintendo? Could the results be because people would follow Nintendo through any changes?

At any rate like Eric and other siad Nintendo aren't separating from Hybrid as they've structured the company towards it. The best that could be hoped for is a Switch TV.

I mean, the simple fact that we're here spending our free time debating video games on a dedicated forum suggests we're not reflective of the average consumer. Most folks who play games don't feel the need to sign up to a forum, it's typically enthusiasts who get this invested.

The Wii U basically shows how many folks would follow Nintendo through thick and thin. That's the hardcore Nintendo audience who will buy any console to play their games.

The WiiU was a great console, sadly ignored by the masses.

It did have some issues. Stick drift making the whole handheld experience crap. Not ergonomic, some games literally hurt to play.

Yet having the map and inventory in your hands while playing on an uncluttered screen, that was simply brilliant. Touch screen to handle inventory, pick abilities, upgrades, set markers on the map, easy zoom and drag. Then back to full screen playing while glancing at the map in your hands to go the right way.

A less bulky, more ergonomic tablet, basically the Switch as secondary screen would be great. Sadly the thing is stuck in its dock for TV mode :/ Maybe Switch 2 can bring that experience back. Either all on handheld, or cast the game play to the tv while keeping the UI on the Switch.

The problem with the Wii U, at least for me, was the lack of games.

It had some really great titles like BOTW, Bayonetta 2, DKC Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, etc, but they were few and far between, separated by long barrens stretches of nothingness.

3-4 good games per year just isn't enough to keep me going.



Probably. Would have to know more about it. I've bought home consoles from other companies so I can't see why I wouldn't if it was a good console.



curl-6 said:

The problem with the Wii U, at least for me, was the lack of games.

It had some really great titles like BOTW, Bayonetta 2, DKC Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, etc, but they were few and far between, separated by long barrens stretches of nothingness.

3-4 good games per year just isn't enough to keep me going.

I play the Switch a lot less than the WiiU. But true, WiiU was my secondary to PS3/360/PS4.

Lego city Undercover was another gem, Windwaker HD, Super Mario Maker, Pikmin 3, Rayman Legends and 3D world were great to play together.