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Wait, is this just a thread about Adventure games overall now ?

In that case, I'll preface by saying Kotaro Uchikoshi(Writer and Game designer at Too Kyo) has kinda been an almost unequaled master of the genre since the Nonary Games (999, Virtue's Last Reward, Zero Time Dilemma) came out back on the DS or The Somnium Files series.

The guy one ups the conventional aspects of the branching story paths in multiple choices story games by making the branching path having a purpose to the story itself(and in different ways too). That comes in with of course, excellent character writings and fascinating exploration of pseudo-science/esoteric concepts.

It's truly out there.



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Mar1217 said:

Wait, is this just a thread about Adventure games overall now ?

In that case, I'll preface by saying Kotaro Uchikoshi(Writer and Game designer at Too Kyo) has kinda been an almost unequaled master of the genre since the Nonary Games (999, Virtue's Last Reward, Zero Time Dilemma) came out back on the DS or The Somnium Files series.

The guy one ups the conventional aspects of the branching story paths in multiple choices story games by making the branching path having a purpose to the story itself(and in different ways too). That comes in with of course, excellent character writings and fascinating exploration of pseudo-science/esoteric concepts.

It's truly out there.

Not to mention Hotel Dusk. Flower Sun and Rain are also on DS. DS and Wii helped bring back the genre. Zack and Wiki were fun. Something like Detroit is a poorly written tone def take on American Civil Rights issues of the 1950s tho black people could not simply peel off an LED sticker off their heads lol. Cage is so awful at writing it's hilarious. That dude thinks a urine-filled rain puddle is as deep as the Atlantic. I need to try the games you mentioned. They look good. I also need to try Ghost Trick. Loved Ace Attorney games.

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Leynos said:
Mar1217 said:

Wait, is this just a thread about Adventure games overall now ?

In that case, I'll preface by saying Kotaro Uchikoshi(Writer and Game designer at Too Kyo) has kinda been an almost unequaled master of the genre since the Nonary Games (999, Virtue's Last Reward, Zero Time Dilemma) came out back on the DS or The Somnium Files series.

The guy one ups the conventional aspects of the branching story paths in multiple choices story games by making the branching path having a purpose to the story itself(and in different ways too). That comes in with of course, excellent character writings and fascinating exploration of pseudo-science/esoteric concepts.

It's truly out there.

Not to mention Hotel Dusk. Flower Sun and Rain are also on DS. DS and Wii helped bring back the genre. Zack and Wiki were fun. Something like Detroit is a poorly written tone def take on American Civil Rights issues of the 1950s tho black people could not simply peel off an LED sticker off their heads lol. Cage is so awful at writing it's hilarious. That dude thinks a urine-filled rain puddle is as deep as the Atlantic. I need to try the games you mentioned. They look good. I also need to try Ghost Trick. Loved Ace Attorney games.

Yes, do so. Not only are they really good games of the Adventure genre, but I think all them also have soundtracks that are quite stellar too. It's an all around great package. 

Anywoo, I'm still baffled the Nonary Games weren't officially ported to the Switch yet considering they were all on previous Nintendo handhelds while The Somnium Files games are there no problem ....

Anywoo, speaking of Hotel Dusk, I'm really hopeful after System Arc's work on Another Code Recollection, hopefully they also pitched a remake of the Hotel Dusk duology to them right after. 



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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Having grown up in the 80's and 90's, I found all the above somehow... lacking. Having played through Monkey Island 1+2, Leisure Suit Larry 3, 5-7, Simon the Sorcerer and Day of the Tentacle, you know that those are a different breed of Adventure games than those one grew up with and cherished a lot back then.

That being said, I recently found 3 new Adventures that I absolutely love: Disco Elysium, The Council and The Forgotten City. Their unconventional writing and RPG  (Council and Disco Elysium) or Loop (The Forgotten City) mechanics make for something new that those games simply didn't deliver.

Also, unlike with the Telltale Games Adventures, choices actually do matter in those! A lot!

Disco Elysium is a CRPG. That's like lumping Torment in with these games. 



This thread is now hurting my brain, how did all these other genres get lumped in with this crowd. The Last of Us is technically an adventure game but you wouldn't categorise it as one of these games. What the hell is the genre called anyway, cause it can't be categorised as just adventure.



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LegitHyperbole said:

This thread is now hurting my brain, how did all these other genres get lumped in with this crowd. The Last of Us is technically an adventure game but you wouldn't categorise it as one of these games. What the hell is the genre called anyway, cause it can't be categorised as just adventure.

Adventure games are focused on puzzle-solving, exploration, and storytelling, and have few or no action/combat elements. The Last of Us is action or action-adventure.



LegitHyperbole said:

This thread is now hurting my brain, how did all these other genres get lumped in with this crowd. The Last of Us is technically an adventure game but you wouldn't categorise it as one of these games. What the hell is the genre called anyway, cause it can't be categorised as just adventure.

Last of Us is part of the Adventure-Action genre. 

But yes technically, the games in the OP are all factually part of the Adventure genre.  The genre evolved in notorious different ways in the west than it did back when most of them were in majority FMVs or point n click/puzzle adventure games. 

Knowadays that landscape evolved into a much more cinematic approach to the ordeal emulating what is being done by movies/tv shows which is where the episodic adventure craze of the early 2010's came in with the release of The Walking Dead by Telltale which previously had only moderate success with games closer to the old-formula of adventure games from the end of the 90's- beginning of the 2000's which low key died with Lucas Arts demise. 

Though in Japan, Adventure games(VNs and command based and such) remained decently popular so they didn't see big evolutions appart from a few titles that made themselves known like Ace Attorney, Danganronpa and the Nintendo's Adventure games of the DS era like Hotel Dusk and Trance Memories(Another Code). 

Today the bigger games of the said Adventure genre definitely adheres to the codes layout by their more significant movie-like counterpart, just that they vary in their ways of interactions and narrative aspects.

Though, Disco Elysium is a CRPG at it's core, I'd definitely accept it as an Adventure game too. Just it's systems of interactions are all linked to character stats.



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Mar1217 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

This thread is now hurting my brain, how did all these other genres get lumped in with this crowd. The Last of Us is technically an adventure game but you wouldn't categorise it as one of these games. What the hell is the genre called anyway, cause it can't be categorised as just adventure.

Last of Us is part of the Adventure-Action genre. 

But yes technically, the games in the OP are all factually part of the Adventure genre.  The genre evolved in notorious different ways in the west than it did back when most of them were in majority FMVs or point n click/puzzle adventure games. 

Knowadays that landscape evolved into a much more cinematic approach to the ordeal emulating what is being done by movies/tv shows which is where the episodic adventure craze of the early 2010's came in with the release of The Walking Dead by Telltale which previously had only moderate success with games closer to the old-formula of adventure games from the end of the 90's- beginning of the 2000's which low key died with Lucas Arts demise. 

Though in Japan, Adventure games(VNs and command based and such) remained decently popular so they didn't see big evolutions appart from a few titles that made themselves known like Ace Attorney, Danganronpa and the Nintendo's Adventure games of the DS era like Hotel Dusk and Trance Memories(Another Code). 

Today the bigger games of the said Adventure genre definitely adheres to the codes layout by their more significant movie-like counterpart, just that they vary in their ways of interactions and narrative aspects.

Though, Disco Elysium is a CRPG at it's core, I'd definitely accept it as an Adventure game too. Just it's systems of interactions are all linked to character stats.

Hmm. It gets incredibly hard to define what these games are then like adding Disco Elysium, I can see why it is an adventure game based on what you said though. Thanks for the info. Quantic Dream are out of the genre so with Star Wars Eclipse since it's gonna have action based play. 



LegitHyperbole said:
Mar1217 said:

Last of Us is part of the Adventure-Action genre. 

But yes technically, the games in the OP are all factually part of the Adventure genre.  The genre evolved in notorious different ways in the west than it did back when most of them were in majority FMVs or point n click/puzzle adventure games. 

Knowadays that landscape evolved into a much more cinematic approach to the ordeal emulating what is being done by movies/tv shows which is where the episodic adventure craze of the early 2010's came in with the release of The Walking Dead by Telltale which previously had only moderate success with games closer to the old-formula of adventure games from the end of the 90's- beginning of the 2000's which low key died with Lucas Arts demise. 

Though in Japan, Adventure games(VNs and command based and such) remained decently popular so they didn't see big evolutions appart from a few titles that made themselves known like Ace Attorney, Danganronpa and the Nintendo's Adventure games of the DS era like Hotel Dusk and Trance Memories(Another Code). 

Today the bigger games of the said Adventure genre definitely adheres to the codes layout by their more significant movie-like counterpart, just that they vary in their ways of interactions and narrative aspects.

Though, Disco Elysium is a CRPG at it's core, I'd definitely accept it as an Adventure game too. Just it's systems of interactions are all linked to character stats.

Hmm. It gets incredibly hard to define what these games are then like adding Disco Elysium, I can see why it is an adventure game based on what you said though. Thanks for the info. Quantic Dream are out of the genre so with Star Wars Eclipse since it's gonna have action based play. 

Yeeeaah about that Star Wars Eclipse game ... I really don't think it's gonna happen. Or at least not before a good while. That trailer we had more than 2 years ago now was just for recruitment purposes and also we got the whole allegations around the bad treatment of David Cage's employees, especially female workers. 

That was also before the recent contraction in the industry since last year. Will they have the continued budget and support for a project that long in the making ? I don't know.



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Mar1217 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Hmm. It gets incredibly hard to define what these games are then like adding Disco Elysium, I can see why it is an adventure game based on what you said though. Thanks for the info. Quantic Dream are out of the genre so with Star Wars Eclipse since it's gonna have action based play. 

Yeeeaah about that Star Wars Eclipse game ... I really don't think it's gonna happen. Or at least not before a good while. That trailer we had more than 2 years ago now was just for recruitment purposes and also we got the whole allegations around the bad treatment of David Cage's employees, especially female workers. 

That was also before the recent contraction in the industry since last year. Will they have the continued budget and support for a project that long in the making ? I don't know.

Can't wait to see the evil fat white guy in the QD Star Wars verse lol. If they are fat and white you know they're evil in a QD game.



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