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Latest schedule for next week's DNC.

First night - Monday, August 19

Incumbent President Joe Biden is expected to speak. Governor of New York Kathy Hochul is scheduled to speak, as is Hillary Clinton.

Second night - Tuesday, August 20

Former President Barack Obama and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff are tentatively expected to speak.

Third night - Wednesday, August 21

Governor Tim Walz, the nominee for vice president, will deliver his acceptance speech. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is also scheduled to have a primetime speaking slot. Former President Bill Clinton is also expected to speak.

Fourth night - Thursday, August 22

Vice President Harris, the nominee for president, will deliver her acceptance speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_National_Convention#Schedule

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Last edited by the-pi-guy - on 16 August 2024

Some interesting polling stuff happening over the last couple days. While polling moved pretty consistently for the first few weeks of the race, there seems to have been a bit of a split recently. We're still getting polls that are quite good for Harris (+6 Harris from Outward Intelligence, +5 from Emerson College, +5 from Activote), but there have been more solid polls for Trump popping up (+2 Trump from RMG Research, Even from Cygnal, +1 Trump from Fox). Similar trends have been happening with some of the state level polling.

Unsure if this is just normal polling fluctuations or a trend emerging at this point. Given that Harris is still getting plenty of good polls, I'm inclined to think that we're just reaching a plateau and seeing normal polling fluctuations but it's definitely something to keep an eye on. If Harris can't get above +3 Nationally, this is going to be a nailbiter to the end.



sundin13 said:

Some interesting polling stuff happening over the last couple days. While polling moved pretty consistently for the first few weeks of the race, there seems to have been a bit of a split recently. We're still getting polls that are quite good for Harris (+6 Harris from Outward Intelligence, +5 from Emerson College, +5 from Activote), but there have been more solid polls for Trump popping up (+2 Trump from RMG Research, Even from Cygnal, +1 Trump from Fox). Similar trends have been happening with some of the state level polling.

Unsure if this is just normal polling fluctuations or a trend emerging at this point. Given that Harris is still getting plenty of good polls, I'm inclined to think that we're just reaching a plateau and seeing normal polling fluctuations but it's definitely something to keep an eye on. If Harris can't get above +3 Nationally, this is going to be a nailbiter to the end.

Well, there usually is an after candidate naminating congress bump. As this time the nominated candidate was brand new I assume this made more of wave than usual. But there should also be the normal bump - and this tends to wear off over time. So probably Harris will not stay that high, although she probably also don't fall to the level of Biden. As polls have different runtimes and different time between the period people were asked and publication it can happen that polls for a short time diverge if there is a change.



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sundin13 said:

Unsure if this is just normal polling fluctuations or a trend emerging at this point. Given that Harris is still getting plenty of good polls, I'm inclined to think that we're just reaching a plateau and seeing normal polling fluctuations but it's definitely something to keep an eye on. If Harris can't get above +3 Nationally, this is going to be a nailbiter to the end.

At least there are hints Trump does not have the same electoral college advantage he had in 2020 or 2016. A +2 like Hillary *might* suffice this time around.



 

 

 

 

 

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So with Kennedy looking to drop out, do we think this will have any effect on the race? Seems like Kennedy was pulling from Trump more often than not in five way polling, so there is a reasonable chance that this will add a point or so to Trump's polling in some states if the polling is to be trusted. Thoughts?



sundin13 said:

Thoughts?

The Little League World Series wraps up this weekend, and the NFL season starts soon after.  Most people I know in the USA care more

about those two sports than friggin politics at this time.



sundin13 said:

So with Kennedy looking to drop out, do we think this will have any effect on the race? Seems like Kennedy was pulling from Trump more often than not in five way polling, so there is a reasonable chance that this will add a point or so to Trump's polling in some states if the polling is to be trusted. Thoughts?

Harris is still leading head to head.  Besides, RFK Jr polled around 5% from known, expected voters.  Add in the totality of voters, he wouldn't even get 1%.  The people he has now are die hard political watchers.  The majority of people have no clue who the hell he even is.  Even then I'd say a chuck of his followers are with him simply due to name recognition more so than policy.  

The right is trying to hard to make it appear as though RFK Jr's inevitable campaign conclusion is going to be the tipping point that moves Trump back ahead. 



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BFR said:
sundin13 said:

Thoughts?

The Little League World Series wraps up this weekend, and the NFL season starts soon after.  Most people I know in the USA care more

about those two sports than friggin politics at this time.

Instead of being a douche bag, you could just avoid political threads if you don’t care to talk about politics.



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zorg1000 said:
BFR said:

The Little League World Series wraps up this weekend, and the NFL season starts soon after.  Most people I know in the USA care more

about those two sports than friggin politics at this time.

Instead of being a douche bag, you could just avoid political threads if you don’t care to talk about politics.

Zorg, I love politics. I have a degree in political science.  Apparently, you do not recognize SARCASM !