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LegitHyperbole said:

He's gone and innstalled a women for White House Chief of staff, first ever. What a horribly misogynistic thing to do, this man hates women to their core, he all but had to outright say it alloud.

That's misplaced sarcasm. There are plenty of black Republican politicians, including some that were endorsed by Trump, but none of that changes that he's a racist.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

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sc94597 said:
jason1637 said:

https://x.com/ajlamesa/status/1855004839572357340
Holy shit Bidens internal polling showed Trump picking up 400 electoral votes when he was refusing to drop out.

Yeah, the Democratic party needs to be cleaned out, starting today. It is bullshit that they played russian roulette with our futures here. 

Just glad they had enough awareness to give us what looks like a 220R-215D HoR (maybe even narrower) and 53R-47D Senate rather than what it could have been.

sc94597 said:

Yes, and Biden probably won in part because he had to defend himself against those 20-25 candidates and make a viable argument for himself. Biden was abandoned because he isn't popular. 

Maybe they should let the voters choose next time in advance, or like, every time for that matter.



RolStoppable said:
LegitHyperbole said:

He's gone and innstalled a women for White House Chief of staff, first ever. What a horribly misogynistic thing to do, this man hates women to their core, he all but had to outright say it alloud.

That's misplaced sarcasm. There are plenty of black Republican politicians, including some that were endorsed by Trump, but none of that changes that he's a racist.

Where's your proof?  He is buddy buddy with Hershel Walker and Kanye (Ye), just to name a few.



sc94597 said:
EricHiggin said:

Dems had like what, 20-25 Primary candidates, all who lost to Biden, the VP, stepping in late?

Then after one term of Biden they decide a late VP Harris is the answer?

Reps have at least 4, at least, good to go for 2032, right, after, Trump. LOL.

Yes, and Biden probably won in part because he had to defend himself against those 20-25 candidates and make a viable argument for himself. Biden was abandoned because he isn't popular. 

Why are you talking about 2032? Trump's term ends in 2028. 

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sc94597 said:

And remember, we're talking about a hypothetical third Trump term after he's been in office again for four years and is 82 years old. 

And remember, we're talking about a hypothetical third Trump term after he's been in office again for four years and is 82 years old. 



RolStoppable said:
LegitHyperbole said:

He's gone and innstalled a women for White House Chief of staff, first ever. What a horribly misogynistic thing to do, this man hates women to their core, he all but had to outright say it alloud.

That's misplaced sarcasm. There are plenty of black Republican politicians, including some that were endorsed by Trump, but none of that changes that he's a racist.

Hit me in layman terms for why he's a racist. I have not seen racially fueled actions or words from him, often the opposite. What actions has he taken that are racist as words can just be wind and all that. 

Also, how did you take misogyny and flip it into racism. Just to add, I'm not a trump devout nor am I interested in a long drawn out profanity, all or nothing argument like in this thread since election day or do I have the interest in the subject enough to do so. Please be civil. 



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BFR said:

Trans men should not be playing in women's sports. It is that simple.

These are two sentences that I agree with, but I have a small correction: Men who transition are called transwomen, not transmen like you wrote.

The first one because of biological reality. Those who argue otherwise are stooping to the same level as the deniers of human made climate change. The facts need to be respected.

The second one because I witnessed it first hand during the broadcast of Lions vs. Packers. There were multiple commercial breaks where the Trump campaign hammered it home that the Democrats aren't against transwomen in women's sports. I consider these ads highly effective in turning people away from the Democrats, so if a Democrat wants to be electable, they have to keep this topic in mind.

The problem with transwomen in women's sports is that you are effectively discriminating against women. Women's sports were created because of biological reality and in the interest of fairness which is the ideal that sports in general strive for. Keeping transwomen out of women's sports counts as discrimination against transwomen, and I would agree with that. So the situation is that this is a problem with no possible solution to please everyone. Smart politics opt for the majority in such cases, it is that simple. Doing otherwise makes the Democrats a very easy target.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

BFR said:
RolStoppable said:

That's misplaced sarcasm. There are plenty of black Republican politicians, including some that were endorsed by Trump, but none of that changes that he's a racist.

Where's your proof?  He is buddy buddy with Hershel Walker and Kanye (Ye), just to name a few.

Yes, I said as much. He has a few black buddies.

In the console wars, it has been a regular occurence that a Sony hater claimed owning a PS console as his proof that he can't be a Sony hater. That's obviously bullshit.

So Trump has a few black buddies, but that doesn't undo his many racist remarks and actions.

So Trump appoints a woman for chief of staff, but that doesn't undo all the times that he has treated women poorly.

This is very basic stuff, I am baffled that I even have to explain this.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

RolStoppable said:
BFR said:

Where's your proof?  He is buddy buddy with Hershel Walker and Kanye (Ye), just to name a few.

Yes, I said as much. He has a few black buddies.

In the console wars, it has been a regular occurence that a Sony hater claimed owning a PS console as his proof that he can't be a Sony hater. That's obviously bullshit.

So Trump has a few black buddies, but that doesn't undo his many racist remarks and actions.

So Trump appoints a woman for chief of staff, but that doesn't undo all the times that he has treated women poorly.

This is very basic stuff, I am baffled that I even have to explain this.

What ???  Calm down, again please provide specific proof that he is a racist as you claim. Are you calling me a PS hater? I do recall in an older thread that I bought  a Genesis console, in the 90s, and later trashed Sega, in that thread.



RolStoppable said:
BFR said:

Trans men should not be playing in women's sports. It is that simple.

These are two sentences that I agree with, but I have a small correction: Men who transition are called transwomen, not transmen like you wrote.

The first one because of biological reality. Those who argue otherwise are stooping to the same level as the deniers of human made climate change. The facts need to be respected.

The second one because I witnessed it first hand during the broadcast of Lions vs. Packers. There were multiple commercial breaks where the Trump campaign hammered it home that the Democrats aren't against transwomen in women's sports. I consider these ads highly effective in turning people away from the Democrats, so if a Democrat wants to be electable, they have to keep this topic in mind.

The problem with transwomen in women's sports is that you are effectively discriminating against women. Women's sports were created because of biological reality and in the interest of fairness which is the ideal that sports in general strive for. Keeping transwomen out of women's sports counts as discrimination against transwomen, and I would agree with that. So the situation is that this is a problem with no possible solution to please everyone. Smart politics opt for the majority in such cases, it is that simple. Doing otherwise makes the Democrats a very easy target.



BFR said:

What ???  Calm down, again please provide specific proof that he is a racist as you claim. Are you calling me a PS hater? I do recall in an older thread that I bought  a Genesis console, in the 90s, and later trashed Sega, in that thread.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-racism-election-obama-018824651613

I am not calling you a PS hater. I say that you have a drinking problem.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.