Trump started the whole chips thing in 2016. Did Trump not make deals with TSMC to build foundries in the US? Isn't TSMC in the process?

This would make perfect sense. If China invades Taiwan, TSMC 'nukes' their plants, evacuates their top engineers, and leaves China with jack.

Ask Pem, he's mentioned this before in other forums.

Intel is also in trouble, or seriously headed for trouble, even with Bidens Chips Act in place. They're working with the Gov to plan for a merger or buyout. I don't see Biden or Trump allowing Intel to be owned by a non Western company.

Nope, "everyone on the right" believes Trump is trolling (or at least claims to), because it's easier to accept than the reality that they've been duped by a dimwitted monster.  

Torillian: "First link is about protests that in no way got inside the Capitol building so that's certainly not the same."

"The sergeant in arms will remove the protestors from the gallery" - Joe Biden (minute marker 1:30)

Associated Press Source: Protests Disrupt Final Electoral Count - YouTube

Torillian: "Or did Biden or Obama make efforts to use their department of Justice and pressure state officials to upend the election?"

Democrats tried to remove Trump by Russian collusion/Zelensky phone call tin foil hat conspiracy theories. They also called for his impeachment the day after he was elected in 2016. *Mic drop*

Torillian: "And then it was just a bunch of dumb crap about the use of the term "people of color""

So calling out racism within the Democrat party is a bunch of dumb crap. Got it.

Honestly, the fact that it now works that way is arguably more by accident than design. In the pre-Civil War era it basically stacked the deck in favor of the slave-owning states, until the north and the west coast became populous enough that the anti-slavery states were able to turn the tables. Then in the latter part of the 19th century the balance swung completely the other way and the Republicans were able to focus on the big cities and let the Democrats carve out their own little fiefdoms in the south where they could enact Jim Crow laws to their hearts' content.

If the Electoral College really was designed to ensure the three points you mentioned, it didn't really start fulfilling its intended purpose until the 1960s, once civil and voting rights had been properly enshrined in federal law.

It's a 2-minute long video of a disruption. Do you seriously equate this to what occurred on January 6th, 2021?

Which Democrats tried to do that because it seemed to me like Biden was very judiciously trying to get through the process and be done with this and Obama was nowhere to be seen trying to up in the results. Again, it's just not the same thing. You could have at least tossed out the shit from Hawaii in the '60s although I'm aware of it. 

Edit: I'll toss in here that I was unaware that there were some protesters that made it to disrupt the electoral count for like 30 seconds my bad. My claim would be that has no similarity to what occurred on 2021. 

Lol, you nailed the US test.  The entire thing is a joke, which is why people wreck daily.  UK drivers are amazing.  I was impressed with how busy and small the roads are, yet nobody has any issues.  The UK test clearly works and the US needs to ramp up.  

Trump was trolling Harris when he did his McD's stunt. Trump was trolling when he pulled his Garbage truck, high vis stunt. They also had a minor amount of merit to them, but the right knew he didn't enjoy it, they just knew, that Trump knows, that they don't like how the Dems and MSM has been treating them.

The left and MSM reaction shows they either didn't get it, or thought acting like victims, while making fun of Trump (being an orange peasant loser) was going to net them useful points.

Like Chrkeller keeps saying, the left just doesn't get it.

Don't lie now, that's not what caused the initial debate. Here is your exact quote word for word.

"Another thing that was odd to me is in many countries cars don't come with a spare tire. Because if you get a flat you aren't suppose to change the tire yourself. You are suppose to call a government agency to do it for safety."

And

"One of the questions in the test is what to do when you get a flat. You call someone, you are 100% not suppose to change your tire. It is a government regulation."

You said nothing about motorway in the initial comment which caused users to respond with doubts, Pi said his friend had never heard of that rule to which you "called BS" on his friends story.

I provided a link to the Highway Code which says "Only change the tyre if you can do so without putting yourself or others at risk" which tells us that a tyre can be changed by yourself because your first comment heavily, heavily implied, that it's "against government regulation" to change your tyre full-stop, not just on a motorway. You said it was "100%" in your assessment.

I was actually the first one to seek clarification if you meant on the motorway.

I then provided multiple sources after you ignored my attempt of clarification, because I believed you was still claiming that you can't change your tyre anywhere, so I gathered two sources which state that yes, you can change your tyre.

You still did not reply to my comment asking if you meant on the motorway and instead tried to say that by "it's against government regulation" and "You are 100% not supposed to change a tyre yourself" that you did not mean it was illegal but it was still a rule in some way. So in effect what you was saying here was that, it's against government regulation but it's not against the law and thus it's irrelevant because you can change the tyre with no legal consequence, that became your new argument.

You didn't provide sources, it was in fact me who provided the source that "It is however against the law to attempt repairs on a motorway." once again in an attempt to seek clarification that you meant on the motorway.

I asked once again, did you mean on the motorway

I even then provided a source of the exact question you was talking about, unfortunately the image is deleted.

Only then did you change your argument to that you meant on the motorway/highway.

But I also saw people saying they've changed their tyre on the motorway so even then it's uncertain on "100%"

Bear in mind I was questioned by folks who never stepped foot in the UK

I live in the UK. I know people who drive in the UK. As did Pi-Guy and I provided sources based in the UK.

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Reason I bought it up was because of your constant condescending and high horse attitude in this thread, constantly getting on peoples asses for being wrong or making a mistake, demanding apologises, when you can't even do it yourself over a stupid driving test question and admit that you made a mistake in the first initial statement. Here you're still doing it but not only that, straight up lying about how the conversation went.

You never said motorway in the initial statement. It was ME who was the first one to post a source that it is not recommended on the motorway, it was ME who was providing all the sources and information on the matter. It was ME who was seeking clarification multiple times to which you ignored every single attempt. If you just said "Yeah, I meant on the motorway, my bad" at the start then we wouldn't have had pages of debate, I would have said "fair enough, that does look to be the case, for the most part" but hey now here you are lying that you said motorway from the start, Lol.

This is such a stupid debate though, like I said, if you want to continue it then you are welcome to PM my childish and immature self.

How very cherry picked of you. 

What exactly do you think the left's response to these things were?

That's kinda the point. Same with first or second Amendments for example. They weren't for just the day after, they were for just in case eventually.

And no, not everything they did was perfect, and they didn't see everything coming down the road. That's also why things can be changed, even if difficult.