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Ryuu96 6 days ago
LegitHyperbole said:
Ryuu96 said:

If we can't find any new political Mods then it's more likely the entire political forum gets nuked, Lol. I've been trying to find replacements for a while, and I'm worried about the team burning out, there's already too few Mods who are willing to drive themselves insane in the political section. I've asked like 10+ people and they all said no.

I'd usually be against it but I already feel bad about the idea of my break from the site and thinking about the other Mods burning themselves out, I'm definitely noticing the frustrations on everyone's part including my own, I don't think I've acted that professionally as a Mod recently (though I hardly ever warn/ban anymore) but if we're going to end up with a forum which is barely moderated because everyone has burnt themselves out then it's going to be a fucking toxic wasteland and the thought of me leaving a couple mods to deal with that makes me say "I don't care what happens to the political section after I'm gone" Lol.

Damn. Perhaps consolidate everything into one majour thread and see how it goes before nuking the lot. Problem is with taking the whole lot down is politics out bursts will happen in gaming threads more often and probably cuase more stress on the mods. 

Damn. This sucks. Maybe launch a campaign to get more mods in before you transition to leave, there's enough of hardcore posters on here who'd been around for over a decade 🤔 and you and Auximblade are really the only two power user mods. Perhaps the writers would be willing to assume some moderation duty?

Yeah that's a concern.

The issue is we're not going to hire anyone just because we're desperate, it has to be a good candidate, and I've asked maybe 10+ people and everyone understandably is like "fuck no" and if I weren't pissing off then I'd probably be against it but I'm just concerned for my team u'know, someone has to look out for them, it's a thankless role which receives an endless stream of criticism even in good times and everyone is stressed the fuck out right now.

I don't know what you mean by power user but thanks, Lol.

There's low-key like 1 active writer (Trunks). He already does enough for the site and definitely wouldn't want the role of Mod, Lmao. 

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EricHiggin 6 days ago
haxxiy said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

Some really interesting data coming. Gen Z voted for Trump in it's majority, something I would never expect to see. It seems they are not as liberal as progressive as some would say. Also it seems while trump votes are not that far from 2020 and 2016, there were 15 million votes less for Harris compared to Biden. Thats crazy.  

He didn't, although he managed to swing them a bit vs. the last election. Bush 2000 is still the most recent Republican to win the youth vote.

I'm more surprised by the Gen Y tie since that used to be strongly pro-Obama in the past. Gen X has lead in their brains so the gap is expected and the older votes swung a bit toward Harris, suggesting the economy did play a strong role in the results.

Gen Y has a why problem, like why vote? I know a lot of people my age who don't bother voting. I never have. Not once. Some of my friends and I, seriously might just vote next election (Canada), because if you give Gen Y enough of a reason, they will at least seriously think about it. 

In 2016, none of my family or friends thought Trump had a chance and was a joke in the US election. I was the only one who thought he very well may have a chance. Now, about half of them either don't mind Trump and/or just can't stand what the Dems have become.

If our next election was right now (probably a year away yet), Trudeau and the Liberals would lose way worse than the Dems just did. Way worse, like how they lost party status in Ontario not long ago because they lost so bad. The odds this changes in a years time are low. Trudeau has very similar problems as Harris had.

I also thought Trudeau was the right choice in 2015 and that it was great that we finally got rid of Harper and the Conservatives. I eventually realized it was a mistake, but really didn't know jack about politics back then. Trudeau's leadership, or lack of, plus Trumps 2016 campaign, is what got me paying much more attention to politics and actually researching things myself and thinking things through, instead of just listening to the media.

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LegitHyperbole 6 days ago
Ryuu96 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Damn. Perhaps consolidate everything into one majour thread and see how it goes before nuking the lot. Problem is with taking the whole lot down is politics out bursts will happen in gaming threads more often and probably cuase more stress on the mods. 

Damn. This sucks. Maybe launch a campaign to get more mods in before you transition to leave, there's enough of hardcore posters on here who'd been around for over a decade 🤔 and you and Auximblade are really the only two power user mods. Perhaps the writers would be willing to assume some moderation duty?

Yeah that's a concern.

The issue is we're not going to hire anyone just because we're desperate, it has to be a good candidate, and I've asked maybe 10+ people and everyone understandably is like "fuck no" and if I weren't pissing off then I'd probably be against it but I'm just concerned for my team u'know, someone has to look out for them, it's a thankless role which receives an endless stream of criticism even in good times and everyone is stressed the fuck out right now.

I don't know what you mean by power user but thanks, Lol.

There's low-key like 1 active writer (Trunks). He already does enough for the site and definitely wouldn't want the role of Mod, Lmao. 

Yeah, for sure it'd ruin the users experience on the site so definitely understandable. Perhaps you won't go though, sure wouldn't stepping back for while for some R&R instead of giving up completely be all the same. 

By power user, I mean actually engaging across the forum and nurturing threads, aucim blade creates threads and gets people engaged and it seems he's having fun doing it. It looked like you were having fun to.  



EricHiggin 6 days ago
the-pi-guy said:
KLAMarine said:

Democrats need to nominate a billionaire celebrity next time. But who?.. Mark Cuban?

Nah, money needs to get as far away from politics as possible. 

The Dems and Lefts messaging has come off as, men, whites (and oranges), and boomers bad, for a long time now, yet they chose Biden in 2020...

haxxiy said:
KLAMarine said:

Democrats need to nominate a billionaire celebrity next time. But who?.. Mark Cuban?

Younger Bernie Sanders from a time machine. Dan Osborn if he had won would have been a front contender too. Or Gluesenkamp Perez after she becomes a Senator/Governor of Washington.

To be honest, I don't think any Democrat fits the bill of what might be the success formula (more to the center on social issues + left-wing economic populism) right now.

Another new upcomer like Obama, or a famous non politician, like Trump, who's personally not like Trump. That or they lose.



The_Yoda 6 days ago
Torillian said:
curl-6 said:

I feel I should clarify; I'm not trying to just stir the pot here, so I do apologize if my posts came off that way. In retrospect, I should have been more measured.

I was simply speaking from a place of frustration. I'm not a fan of Trumpism, but we really shouldn't be finding ourselves in a situation where someone like Trump can be considered a preferable option in the first place.

I'll extend an olive branch: I totally get it, something's gone wrong. But I can't help but be frustrated when people on the right in this very thread make shitty posts like the one a couple above. That's totally dismissive and derisive but for some reason it's only the left who has to watch their rhetoric. The right has figured out how to make the shitty rhetoric a feature rather than a bug and it is wholly frustrating. People of positions of power on the right made jokes about the attack on Paul Pelosi while the democratic party in its entirety gets blamed if someone random on facebook does the same for Trump's assassination attempts. 

Here's a simple example. see if any republican on TV ever calls it the democratic party, no instead they call it the democrat party as a little insult every time. Or mispronounces people's names or says "Barack Houssein Obama". Is there anything like that from the left that is from positions of power rather than just random left internet users?

Trump is responsible for Jan 6th but none of these guys are responsible for radicalizing at least a couple individuals that tried to assassinate Trump .... seems a pretty big double standard to me.  

Edit - holy don't watch past the first couple minutes.  The word Fight suddenly started sounding weirdly wrong.  the first section of clips is what I was after, the second section completely lacks context and is just Dems using the word fight ... don't waste your time after like 2 min.

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Ryuu96 6 days ago
LegitHyperbole said:
Ryuu96 said:

Yeah that's a concern.

The issue is we're not going to hire anyone just because we're desperate, it has to be a good candidate, and I've asked maybe 10+ people and everyone understandably is like "fuck no" and if I weren't pissing off then I'd probably be against it but I'm just concerned for my team u'know, someone has to look out for them, it's a thankless role which receives an endless stream of criticism even in good times and everyone is stressed the fuck out right now.

I don't know what you mean by power user but thanks, Lol.

There's low-key like 1 active writer (Trunks). He already does enough for the site and definitely wouldn't want the role of Mod, Lmao. 

Yeah, for sure it'd ruin the users experience on the site so definitely understandable. Perhaps you won't go though, sure wouldn't stepping back for while for some R&R instead of giving up completely be all the same. 

By power user, I mean actually engaging across the forum and nurturing threads, aucim blade creates threads and gets people engaged and it seems he's having fun doing it. It looked like you were having fun to.  

I see. Yeah, I used to have fun, Lol.



jason1637 6 days ago

John Cena or Stephen A Smith need to run next time on the Dem ticket. Unfortunately im being dead serious.



LegitHyperbole 6 days ago
jason1637 said:

John Cena or Stephen A Smith need to run next time on the Dem ticket. Unfortunately im being dead serious.

Idiocracy achieved. 



EricHiggin 6 days ago
EricHiggin said:

So in 4 years time, if Trump has clearly failed in his second term, when Reps blame Biden's economy, the Dems will just blame Trump.

Waaaaaait a second...

Hiku said:

If one of the main complaints about his failure will be the economy, then sure.
Though I think the traditional Republican tax cuts for the ultra wealthy are one of the main factors, and differs from traditional Democratic spending bills in that the money from the tax cuts are not invested into the public, but into the pockets of billionaires who just sit on a large portion of it.

Well the Dems and MSM did deny Trumps economy up until about the last year during the election. Then some finally started acknowleding it.

The billionaires won't just sit on most of it if it's worth it to invest it back into the American economy. Trump also understood that was necessary in 2016 if he was going to go the tax cuts route. He talked about bringing back offshore money by making it worth it.

EricHiggin said:

Hopefully the final numbers in the end make more sense, because otherwise you can't help but wonder.

The bellwethers haven't been wrong in a really long time, besides 2020.

Hiku said:

I went over it a bit at the top of this post, and I think IkePoR explained it well a few pages back.
There are many million more votes left to be counted. Around 9 million more will come in from California for example, which is currently at 55% counted.

The lines should allign much closer in the end. But there will be a drop in turnout for blue.

This would put most as ease, though I've already seen conspiracy theories suggesting the reason some states are taking so long is because they're purposely closing that total vote gap to cover it up. I haven't seen any hard evidence of that, so it's just another of the many conspiracy theories that never seem to stop.



Tober 6 days ago

Been watching some reactions on US newschannels like ABC, MSBC and CNN. They are all talking about that Harris' campaign is not to blame. That it was great! Not surprisingly, because there are a $1 Billion reasons not too.

They sure don't want to piss of the DMC or have them thinking "mmmm, perhaps we should not have sunk a huge part of that campaign money in ads on traditional media channels. Let's do that different next time".

So instead they blame, who would have guessed, the Voter.

Identity group-A did not show up, Identity group-B dissapointed, Identity group-C are cultist, Identity group-D what where they thinking?!

As a previous poster on this treat pointed out, Liberal policies seem to be more popular. If so, it must be a messaging issue, a.k.a. Campaign issue. But you'll never hear these pundits say that.

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